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New Zealand Completed Requests / William Hill died NZ c.1868 from Glasgow and prior to that AberdeenshireCOMPLETE

« on: Wednesday 20 October 10 05:32 BST (UK) »

hello

I am trying to locate a ggg grandfather William Hill, whose wife was Helen Hill and daughter Helen Hutton Hill married a Great Great Grandfather John Mc Gough in Glasgow in 1875.

WILLIAM HILL m HELEN MCFADYEH/N
Their daughter HELEN/ELLEN HUTTON HILL born 1848 - d. 17 May 1920

In an 1878 application in Glasgow daughter Helen Mc Gough [ nee Hill] said her father had died in New Zealand ten years ago.

Does anyone have any ideas on how to locate William Hill in NZ with this scant information?

Many thanks
Julie [Tasmania]

Lanarkshire / ?Death of Philip Mortimer 1841-1851? [ex Roscommon to Glasgow 1833]

« on: Tuesday 21 September 10 12:51 BST (UK) »

hi
I am gaining ground on my Mortimer family arrived into Glasgow from Roscommon in 1833.
They are in 1841 census, and most in 1851 census then living with McGeoughs, or rather McGeough's with them.

I have death of mother Bridget Mortimer in 1855 [nee Cairns. M.N. Sheridan] , death of daughter Ann [McGeough] in 1856, and various records of Ann's brothers John and Philip Mortimer.

I am missing the death of father Philip Mortimer who was in the 1841 census, but not in 1851 census - so I think he had died by 1851.

They are Catholic and buried in Dabelth.

I have tried various soundex/ fuzzy, etc variants in Scotlands People for Philip Mortimer.
But not found his death yet.

In 1841 census he is aged 55 - so born in c.1786.
and wife Bridget is 40, so born in c.1800 [though her death cert, in 1855 states she is aged 68 so born in 1797...].

Two infants named Philip Mortimer died in 1868.

thanks for any help with this
Julie

Lanarkshire / David Gough, printer 1901-1955+ at Glasgow Catholic newspaper 1901-1955

« on: Thursday 16 September 10 15:18 BST (UK) »

Hello

I am seeking employment/working life information about great grandfather David Gough from Glasgow.

In 1901 aged 15 in Scottish Census he was a "Printers Apprentice" living on Sandyfaulds st

On 1905 marriage cert. he is a "Printer's Manager" and married Esther Cope, a "Printers assistant" living on South York Street

In 1955 he was aged 70 and 'running a Glasgow Catholic newspaper - according to family stories in Australia.

Was he working in the same place for 55 years?

Was it the Scottish Catholic Observer newspaper?
www.scottishcatholicobserver.org.uk/

But a memory of a family visit from Australia then suggests it was not a very big printery. So was this the printworks of another smaller local Catholic newspaper, or one that printed other material also as well as some Catholic pamphlets etc?

I have emailed the Scottish Catholic Observer last week, asking whether David Gough had been employed there, but no news as yet.

Does anyone have any ideas, direction, or information ?

thanks
Julie

Lanarkshire / Where is 3 Canning St Glasgow, 1891 census[on map 2010?] [Calton, Bridgeton]

« on: Wednesday 15 September 10 22:28 BST (UK) »

hi

I am coming to Scotland in 2 weeks and want to visit as best as possible where ancestors lived as found on various records - finding most on google maps - but I can't find 3 Canning St, Calton, Bridgeton, Glasgow where my GOUGH family were living in 1891.

Can anyone advise where that was? if possible via a google map link !?

Also I am trying to understand if they were going 'up' or 'down' in the world of housing in each census, where they lived. How was their lives...

I understand from previous rootschat feedback that Bridgegate st was in the midst of a slum area.

1851census MC GOUGH - 71 Bridgegate st, Glasgow
1856 death Ann [mother aged 30] MC GOUGH - 81 Bridgegate st, Glasgow
** 1861 census MC GOUGH - can't find them [Francis father b1818, and John Mc Geough/McGough son b.1845 - any advice welcomed to find them.]
1871 census MC GOUGH- 13 Kirk St [?], Glasgow, Calton
1875 birth MC GOUGH - 38 St Andrews Sq, Blackfriars
1881 census - MC GOUGH - 38 St Andrews Sq, Blackfriars
1885 birth MC GOUGH - 42 St Andrews Sq, Blackfriars
1889 birth MC GOUGH - 40? South Wellington St, Glasgow
1891 census GOUGH - 3 Canning st Calton, Bridgeton, Glasgow
1901 census GOUGH - 19 Sandyfaulds st, Govan
1901 census COPE - 562 Calder st, Govan, Glasgow
1905 marriage GOUGH - home address - 438 South York St, Glasgow
1905 marriage GOUGH - church was Kinning Park 33 Queen sq, Glasgow
1908 birth GOUGH 29 Govanhill Street Glasgow
1920 death MC GOUGH - 494 Crown st Glasgow
1929 marriage GOUGH - west Gourlay st, Springlawn [?]

if anyone can advise on that it would be appreciated also
thanks
Julie

Shropshire / Joseph KENDALL of Hales Owen & father's home in Romsley.Transp. to VDL 1842.

« on: Monday 30 August 10 20:04 BST (UK) »

Hello,

I have had some luck and help with the Shropshire Archives, who have posted me [for a fee, but worthwhile] the 12pp trial and conviction to 10 years transportation, for housebreaking, to Van Diemen's Land of my gggg grandfather Joseph Kendall in 1841. He was a labourer, from the Parish of Hales Owen.

Anyhow, I will be in England [from Tasmania - Van Diemen's Land!] in Sept and early Oct 2010 and would very much like to meet any Kendalls and/or Kendall descendants, or those with local knowledge, in the area between Hales Owen, Romsley and Hunnington.

For example, it would be great to meet people who might be related from the siblings Joseph likely left behind. Also I am hoping that there might be some buildings still standing that are mentioned in the records that I could visit.

Joseph's father, William Kendall whose house was from the township of Romsley.
Joseph, in Tasmania, said his native place was "Houston, Shrophire"
but he was apprehended in the Bulls Head public house in Hunnington and it seems he lived at the time at Back Lane, Hunnington.

I have his Tasmanian convict indent record if you are related and interested, let me know.

Joseph Kendall
Convicted 18 Oct 1841 Salop Shrewsbury
Travelled from Portsmouth on ship MOFFATT (3). Arrived 28 Nov 1842 # 39579
Joseph Kindle married Sarah Ann Cox 6/5/1863 (born 1843 aged 20) when he was aged 38, born 1824/5.
Died: 31/1/1877 Ulverstone, Tasmania, Aged 52

It would be great to map these locations, understand more about what happened and see the places where an ancestor came from.

Julie

Lanarkshire / John McGough b1846, Glasgow - Can't find birth cert.

« on: Saturday 28 August 10 11:18 BST (UK) »

Hello,

I am trying to find the birth record for my gg grandfather JOHN MCGOUGH. He died in Glasgow in 1885 aged 39.

Why can’t I find it online!? Have tried all spellings I think..

Can anyone help/advise?
Many thanks
Julie

I have his death cert:
1885
MCGOUGH, JOHN Stat Deaths 644/05 0076
Deaths in the District of Blackfriars in the Burgh of Glasgow
P26 No 76
JOHN MCGOUGH Whipmaker (Master) (Married to Helen Hill)
When and where died: January 21, 8h 15min pm. 38 St Andrews Square Glasgow. Male. Age: 39 years.
Name, surname & rank or professions of father: Francis McGough Tailor (Journey man) (deceased)
Name and maiden surname of mother: Ann McGough MS Mortimer (Deceased)
Cause of death, duration: Phthisis, 1 month.
As cert by Edward Coyle LSA.
Signed X HGough widow (Present)
Registered Jan 22 at Glasgow, 1885. James Hall Registrar.

I have his marriage certificate:
01/01/1875
Stat Marr 644/05 02391
1875 marriages in the district of Blackfriars in the Burgh of Glasgow
p120 No.239.
1 December 1875.
East Campbell Street Church Glasgow after Banns according to the terms of the United Presbyterian Church.
(Signed) John McGough (whipmaker master) (Bachelor). Age: 29
(signed) Hellen Hill, House Keeper (Spinster). Age: 27
Residing: 38 St Andrews Sq, Glasgow.
Name, surname & rank or professions of father: Francis McGough Tailor (Journey man) (deceased) and Ann McGough MS Mortimer (Deceased).
William Hill, House Factor (Deceased) and Helen Hill M.S. McFadyean.
Signed Alexander Wallace DL
Minister of East Campbell Street U.P. Church
Signed: Thomas Holland (witness)
Jemima Farnlay [?] (Witness)
Reg: Dec 4 1875 at Glasgow
JM [?] Thomson

I have cert of his parents marriage:
05/01/1845 Francis McGeough, tailor, in Glasgow m Ann Mortimer residing there. OPR 644/001 0430 0013
[Ann Mortimer [b 1826] arrived in Glasgow in 1833 from Ireland with parents and two brothers. [1841 census].]

Nottinghamshire / Nottingham assizes trial 1815 where to find records of trials +which newspapers?

« on: Friday 27 August 10 13:12 BST (UK) »

Hello

I am hoping to find out more about my ancestors CHARLES MC KENZIE and HANNAH nee MC INTOSH, who were tried in 1815 at Nottingham assizes and transported to NSW for coining.

What I have is below, and not very detailed.

I am hoping to find where they were from originally exactly and more about their circumstances and Nottingham and the assizes at that time.

Can anyone advise on how I could seek any trial records and also if there are any newspapers that might mention them from 1815 - and what these are called, and if any are online, or would I need to come to Nottingham to view them? etc.

I am in Cork until end Sept, but will be in England early Oct to search in person too, so any early advice/help would be fantastic.

thanks
Julie

CHARLES MC KENZIE:
From: UNKNOWN town, Co Fermanagh - he is said to have been born c1782, though I think he may have been older, by 1815 he was possibly married, regardless had 3 children by then.

If anyone has any ideas for [b.c.1782 Fermanagh ‐ d.1822 Sydney (aged c.30)]
A labourer. Charged in Nottingham in 1815 with his wife Hannah/Annie McKenzie [nee McIntosh] with “Coining” – Death sentence commuted to life transportation.

He arrived 1816 into NSW on Atlas 3. Hannah and 3 children arrived a year later.
Charles died c1822 from injury - burns.

Hannah and Charle's son Hugh was said to be born in 1815 in Edinburgh. Hugh died 1867 in Morwatha NSW. [Can't find his birth online on Scotland's people...] The family perhaps arrived from Edinburgh to Nottingham just before conviction – how did they set up a coining racket so quickly ?!

When did Charles leave Ireland? etc. Was Hannah nee McIntosh also Irish?

Hannah remarried to another Irish man, George Gray, transported from Cork on the BRITANNIA, they had 3 children.

Hannah is buried in the Roman Catholic section of Wangaratta cemetery, Victoria, Australia.

Fermanagh / McKenzie, Charles.Born Fermanagh c.1780.Transported 1815 via Nottingham Assizes

« on: Friday 27 August 10 13:05 BST (UK) »

Hello

This is an extreme longshot - but one of my gggg grandfathers was Charles McKenzie, transported to Australia in 1816. He gave his native place as : Fermanagh.

I am currently in Ireland [Aug-Sept 2010] trying to figure out as close as possible, where ancestors came from, and visit those places. It would also be fantastic to meet/say hello to any distant relatives who stayed in Ireland.

Anyhow, what I have is below.
Many thanks for any advice,
Julie

CHARLES MC KENZIE:
From: UNKNOWN town, Co Fermanagh - he is said to have been born c1782, though I think he may have been older, by 1815 he was possibly married, regardless had 3 children by then.

If anyone has any ideas for [b.c.1782 Fermanagh ‐ d.1822 Sydney (aged c.30)]
A labourer. Charged in Nottingham in 1815 with his wife Hannah/Annie McKenzie [nee McIntosh] with “Coining” – Death sentence commuted to life transportation.

He arrived 1816 into NSW on Atlas 3. Hannah and 3 children arrived a year later.
Charles died c1822 from injury - burns.

Hannah and Charle's son Hugh was said to be born in 1815 in Edinburgh. Hugh died 1867 in Morwatha NSW. [Can't find his birth online on Scotland's people...] The family perhaps arrived from Edinburgh to Nottingham just before conviction – how did they set up a coining racket so quickly ?!

When did Charles leave Ireland? etc. Was Hannah nee McIntosh also Irish?

Hannah remarried to another Irish man, George Gray, transported from Cork on the BRITANNIA, they had 3 children.

Hannah is buried in the Roman Catholic section of Wangaratta cemetery, Victoria, Australia.

Roscommon / Kearns, Sheridan, Mortimer families,ROSCOMMON

« on: Friday 27 August 10 12:54 BST (UK) »

Hello

I am hoping to visit where my ancestors came from. I am currently in Ireland from Australia.

In 1833 PHILIP MORTIMER, wife BRIDGET [nee Cairns/Kearns?] and their 3 CHILDREN – all Irish born, likely all from ROSCOMMON or nearby [from Bridget’s death certificate], emigrated to Glasgow.

Bridget's parents were JOHN CAIRNS,farmer, Roscommon, his wife MARY [nee SHERIDAN]

Daughter BRIDGET CAIRNS born Roscommon [b.c. 1796 - d. Glasgow 1855] m. Philip MORTIMER when and where? Both born Ireland.. Where Philip born?

1841 Scottish census:
BRIDGET and Philip’s children: Philip was born in 1829. Ann and brother John were born in 1826 and all from Ireland in 1841 census

Bridget’s death cert.: Statutory Deaths 644/05 0156, 1855
#156 Bridget MORTIMER
Female age 58, Where born, how long in the district: Roscommon, 22 years in Glasgow [left Roscommon in 1833]. Father John CAIRNS Farmer, Mother Mary CAIRNS maiden name SHERIDAN. If deceased was married to whom: Philip Mortimer, a Nailor, Deceased. Bridget MORTIMER died: 1855, Feb 10th, Address: 81 Bridgegate st, Glasgow. Cause of death, How long disease continued: Consumption, 4 years. Burial place: Dalbeth, Glasgow. Signature of informant: John Mortimer: son, 1855 Feb 12th at Glasgow, John Strous? Registrar.

Ann McGough's [nee Mortimer] daughter was Helen/Ellen Hutton Hill [1848-1920] – married in Glasgow in 1875 to John McGough b.1846 [whose father Francis was from Carrickmacross, Monaghan, b1818, left to Glasgow in 1841]

Thanks for any advice on how to find the original locations for where any of the above lived in Ireland, and also it would be fantastic to meet any descendants of those who stayed in Ireland.

Julie
[currently in Cork Aug-Sept 2010]