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The Common Room / Hard labour for women in prison. What did this entail?
« on: Monday 02 October 17 13:05 BST (UK) »
I have a lady in prison in 1871, sentenced to eight calender months hard labour. What would she have to do?
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The Common Room / Looking for Thomas Elmes Gunton TAYLOR b. 1822 in 1871
« on: Wednesday 27 September 17 13:18 BST (UK) »
I’m having trouble tracing this person in 1871.
His name is Thomas Elmes Gunton TAYLOR.
Born 1822 in Great Yarmouth Norfolk. Son of a Surgeon.
He married Emma DAVIES in 1844, had three children in South London then a fourth, Rosalie, in 1857 in Sydney, Australia.
He married Jennie / Jane BREWER (nee TERRY) in 1889 having four more sons with her, and possibly a daughter.
He appears to have another son, Sidney, in 1866 in Brooklyn, New York but I can’t find them in America.
One odd thing is that on the 1881 census he appears as T Taylor IZOD. I am sure this is him as his occupation, place of birth and family names are seemingly correct. Carrie being Caroline, Jane’s daughter from her marriage to Harry BREWER. This census is where Sidney shows up for the first and last time.
IZOD is the name that has been transcribed, but It isn’t clear.
His occupations seem to be advertising agent, commercial traveller, commerce agent and tobacconist.
I found a Thomas Taylor IZOD in 1877 on the UK Railway employees list. As an advertising agent. Would this be an alias if he had been in trouble somewhere?
I have found him in 1891 as Titus TAYLOR, in 1901 as John TAYLOR and he died in 1908.
Trouble is, Thomas and Sidney TAYLOR are very common names.
Any help would be very gratefully received.
His name is Thomas Elmes Gunton TAYLOR.
Born 1822 in Great Yarmouth Norfolk. Son of a Surgeon.
He married Emma DAVIES in 1844, had three children in South London then a fourth, Rosalie, in 1857 in Sydney, Australia.
He married Jennie / Jane BREWER (nee TERRY) in 1889 having four more sons with her, and possibly a daughter.
He appears to have another son, Sidney, in 1866 in Brooklyn, New York but I can’t find them in America.
One odd thing is that on the 1881 census he appears as T Taylor IZOD. I am sure this is him as his occupation, place of birth and family names are seemingly correct. Carrie being Caroline, Jane’s daughter from her marriage to Harry BREWER. This census is where Sidney shows up for the first and last time.
IZOD is the name that has been transcribed, but It isn’t clear.
His occupations seem to be advertising agent, commercial traveller, commerce agent and tobacconist.
I found a Thomas Taylor IZOD in 1877 on the UK Railway employees list. As an advertising agent. Would this be an alias if he had been in trouble somewhere?
I have found him in 1891 as Titus TAYLOR, in 1901 as John TAYLOR and he died in 1908.
Trouble is, Thomas and Sidney TAYLOR are very common names.
Any help would be very gratefully received.
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The Common Room / John moved to Lancashire from Cornwall in 1870s. Was this common?
« on: Monday 18 September 17 11:46 BST (UK) »
I have a John Stacey (b.1854) who moved from Cornwall to Burnley and became a collier as seen in 1881.
His wife Eliza died and the second Mrs Stacey (Cordelia on 1891 census) was also from the same area of Cornwall. How would they know about jobs up North and how would they have travelled there?
I can't find his parents, only grandparents. on 1871 he was working on a farm. I initially thought he might have been a tin miner, but he wasn't.
His wife Eliza died and the second Mrs Stacey (Cordelia on 1891 census) was also from the same area of Cornwall. How would they know about jobs up North and how would they have travelled there?
I can't find his parents, only grandparents. on 1871 he was working on a farm. I initially thought he might have been a tin miner, but he wasn't.
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Armed Forces / On Royal Navy seaman record does DD mean discharge or death?
« on: Thursday 16 February 17 11:00 GMT (UK) »
On a record for Royal Navy it reads "DD at sick quarters Trincomalee from enteritis and disease of heart"
This was in 1902.
Many thanks if anyone knows.
This was in 1902.
Many thanks if anyone knows.
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The Common Room / My ancestor is on the 1841 census but died in 1840. How can this be?
« on: Wednesday 08 February 17 15:08 GMT (UK) »
My ancestor, John Webb, b 1796 Veryan, Cornwall is seen on the 1841 census with wife Margery and children. However, as this photo shows, he died in 1840 ...
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=43232477&ref=acom
Tricky.
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=43232477&ref=acom
Tricky.
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London and Middlesex / The Old Southwark Town Hall 1828
« on: Thursday 19 November 15 14:47 GMT (UK) »
I have a book titled 'Southwark Past' by Richard Tames and on the cover is a picture of Southwark Town Hall in Borough High St dated 1828. This building was demolished in 1859.
The picture is of the back of the book and clearly shows a plaque with the name SMITHERS on it.
I have scoured the book, but can't find any mention of whom this might be. As it is my husband's name, we are obviously very intrigued.
Any suggestions?
The picture is of the back of the book and clearly shows a plaque with the name SMITHERS on it.
I have scoured the book, but can't find any mention of whom this might be. As it is my husband's name, we are obviously very intrigued.
Any suggestions?
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The Common Room / If a husband is shipped off to Australia...
« on: Wednesday 26 March 14 11:45 GMT (UK) »
Could the wife then call herself a widow?
I have a marriage in 1885 between Jane Matthews and Charles Edmond Wrench, (in Battersea) but by the census of 1891 she is a widow and I cannot find him having died, until 1933 in Australia.
I have a marriage in 1885 between Jane Matthews and Charles Edmond Wrench, (in Battersea) but by the census of 1891 she is a widow and I cannot find him having died, until 1933 in Australia.
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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Help with dating these photographs by the fashions please.
« on: Thursday 05 December 13 20:21 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone help with dating these?
The larger photo is possibly my Greatgrandmother ( 1853 - 1921)
Chinakay helpfully suggested this
Yes, this seems to be an early 20th century photo that is silvering out or tarnishing...that give the odd sheen to parts of it. The surround is an early 20th cent style, but as there is very little of the lady showing (can't see the rest of her dress) I'd say maybe about 1910 to just about the war. Can't get any closer I'm afraid.
Cheers,
China
The one with the lady standing is, I think, the same lady but younger. and the one in the white blouse I think is the first lady's daughter, b 1899.
The larger photo is possibly my Greatgrandmother ( 1853 - 1921)
Chinakay helpfully suggested this
Yes, this seems to be an early 20th century photo that is silvering out or tarnishing...that give the odd sheen to parts of it. The surround is an early 20th cent style, but as there is very little of the lady showing (can't see the rest of her dress) I'd say maybe about 1910 to just about the war. Can't get any closer I'm afraid.
Cheers,
China
The one with the lady standing is, I think, the same lady but younger. and the one in the white blouse I think is the first lady's daughter, b 1899.
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Portrograph - is it a proper photo?
« on: Tuesday 03 December 13 22:32 GMT (UK) »
I have a photograph mounted on heavy card with Portrograph in one corner. There are no other markings.
Has anyone heard of these? Is it a photo or a drawing or a combination of both? It's matt but parts seem luminous
Has anyone heard of these? Is it a photo or a drawing or a combination of both? It's matt but parts seem luminous