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Hi Victor and anyone interested in thsi topic some look-ups have already been done on this post

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=137180.0

DebbieG

A few more bits about Benjamin (who might or might not fit in). 

He died in 1823 buried in St Ebb aged 43 so born about 1780 (I can't see a baptism for him at St Ebb)
3 baptisms for daughters of Benjamin & Hannah Alder from St Ebb
1806 Hannah,  1809 Elizabeth,  1812 Sophia

Hannah Alder is buried at St Ebb 1818 aged 39

There is a marriage for Benjamin Alder wdr to Sarah Meads 1819
and a marriage for Hannah Alder to George Wyatt of St Mary Magdeline in 1828

This all fits in with a note from the Oxfordshire archives
Title    Assignment of Lease
Description    
PARTIES:
1. Samuel Collingwood (as in 2D/3).
2. Sarah Booth (as in 2D/4).
3. Hannah Knapp of Oxford, Widow and administratix of James Knapp.
4. a) George Wyatt of Oxford, Builder. b) Hannah Wyatt, Wife of 4a and administratix of Sophia Alder, her sister.
5. John Parker (as in 2D/4).
PROPERTY: Property on the corner of the road from St. Ebbes to St. Aldates Church now a Public House known as the Three Tuns, with a private dwelling house adjoining.
CONSIDERATION: £85 (from 5 to 1); £250 (from 5 to 4a).
COMMENTS: James Knapp left his property to his daughter Hannah, the wife of Benjamin Alder (4b and Sophia Alder were their daughters). On his wife's death, Alder married 2, and then died
intestate, his property being divided between 2 and 4. 2 and 4 now agree to sell their interest in the property to 5.
Date    29/Jun/1836

So some of the estate left by Benjamin and then his daughter Sophia was inherited from his first marriage to Hannah Knapp.

DebbieG

Ohh nice spot on the relationship with Henry Garthwaite,   Galium   

From the registers of St Mary's, Banbury

burial
15 May 1853 Henry John Garthwaite of Calthorpe Lane aged 33

baptisms
1853 May 25th George son of Henry John & Catherine Garthwaite of Calthorpe Lane French Polisher
1853 May 25th Thomsine Elizabeth daughter of Henry John & Catherine Garthwaite of Calthorpe Lane French Polisher
1853 May 25th Samuel Robert son of Henry John & Catherine Garthwaite of Calthorpe Lane French Polisher
1853 July 4th Lucy Mary daughter of Henry John & Catherine Garthwaite of Calthorpe Lane French Polisher

It looks as though Catherine had the children baptised (after the death of Henry) and registered as Garthwaite even though she and Henry John weren't married,  and later they reverted to the name Bidmead I can see a likly George & Samuel Bidmead in later census (they were both Chimney sweeps).  They both give their place of birth as Banbury.  I think it very likly that the Lucy Mary above is the one you are looking for annevicary and that the father Samuel Bidmead on her marriage registration is made up useing her brothers name (I have seen this sort of thing before).

These are all brilliant - thank you so much

DebbieG

Wow - thank you all so much,  we are having a village local history display this Sunday and I wanted to include this, so thanks again

DebbieG