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Just re-read your post.
I thought you just wanted Ethel's surname.

The whole thing says:
Richard Lukins & Ethel Seviar in the market towne of Claston
the 31th day of Jane 1655 were maried Richard Lukins & Ethel Seviar bothe of
this p(ar)ishe before                   Willi(am) Smith


I think the date is 1655 - could be 1659, but no doubt you have the page from which this was taken and have the correct date.
I think the town is Claston. The first letter could be G. Are there any other 'C's or 'G's on the page to compare?

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Not easy to see on the first line ribbo, but on the next line it reads 'Ethel Seviar'.

This page says an Ethel Seviar was baptised 14th Feb 1630 at Wedmore Somerset,
Needs following up I'd say.
https://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=100&loi=4843

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Will of Richard Aylmer 1514
« on: Sunday 14 October 18 04:50 BST (UK)  »
Ah ha! 'minims'. Thanks for solving that one Bookbox.  :)

Ok. So no doubt the tail of the 'y' above and not a contraction mark after all.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Will of Richard Aylmer 1514
« on: Sunday 14 October 18 00:14 BST (UK)  »
Well I thought I'd written 'shalhave', but it obviously didn't come through in my post.  ??? (I usually take off the snippets, do the transcribing on a Word doc, then post it back again. Saves having to try and move between several pages on the post, and scrolling backwards and forwards on the posted images. Anyway, I've found that works best for me. Not an excuse for missing the word.)
But I would never have got 'betwixt' Bookbox! well done. Makes sense.
I can see it now (of course!)  :)

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Will of Richard Aylmer 1514
« on: Saturday 13 October 18 23:23 BST (UK)  »
Snippet 9

or elles at the age of xviij yeres/ Also I bequeath to Elisabeth my doughter v score markes * good and lawfull money of
England when she is maried or when she com(m)yth to the age of xviij yeres/ Item I bequeth to margaret my doughter v score
markes of lawfull money when she is maried or elles when she com(m)yth to the age of xviij yeres / And if any of my doughters
decease or they co(m)me to mariage or to xviij yeres of age I will that the other Sisters lyvyng [   ] then the
seid C marke/ and yf it fortune that two of my doughters decease or they co(m)me to mariage or to the age of xviij yeres
than I will that my doughter that lyveth to mariage or to the age of xviij yeres shalhave no more but CC markes / And yf


* the scribe has missed out the word 'of' here.

Snippet 10

it fortune that all my doughters decease or they com(m)e to mariage or to xviij yere of age/ than I will that it be disposed
for my soule and their soules my frendes soules and Cristen soules / Also I bequeath Elyn my wyff in money and silver
plate and wares to the so(m)me of vj C markes / Also I bequeth my wyff all my stuff of housold / Also I beuqeth ev(er)y sevant
in my house xiij s iiijd Item I lefe? my necys xs/ Item I bequeth to Anngt*(?) my maide xs/ Item I bequeth feyth(?)
my maide xs / Item I bequeth my mother in law a black gowne  and a golde ryng to the value of xs And myn
own mother in lyke mind / Also I will myn Executors receve my dettes and paye my dettes/ Also I requyer my


* there's a contraction mark over the end of this - but I've no idea what it might mean!

The writing itself is not so terrible Willow, apart from the fact is it very tiny. It looks to me he might have had an old pen with an unsharp nib, and so the letters become all blotchy and it's hard to see the formation of the letter shapes. Some squiggle could be 'minie', or 'nimei' or any other permutation of those little letters! I know there's a particular term for 'little up and down strokes', but can't remember what it is.
Perhaps he couldn't afford a new quill!  :)

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Will of Richard Aylmer 1514
« on: Saturday 13 October 18 01:21 BST (UK)  »
More prayers for their souls Willow........

line 5 Snippett 7

Also I bequeth my wyff my place that I dwell in with the rents that long therto for terme of her lyff  And
half a yere after And than to remayne to Elyne my doughter she to have it when she com(m)yth to mariage


Snippet 8
in fee symple after the decease of her mother/ Also yf she decease/ than to remayne to Elisabeth my doughter/ And
yf she decease than to remayne to margaret my doughter/ Also I gyve my wyff my two closes with the syke  mens
houses and iij Acres of Lande withoute seynt Gyles yates terme of her lyff And after her decease to remayne to
Elisabeth my doughter in ffe symple to gyve and sell/ And yf the said Elisabeth decease or her mother(?) or come not
to mariage /than I will that margaret my doughter have the said Closes with the sykemens houses and the said
iij Acres to her and to her heires for evermore/ Also I bequeth Elyn my doughter v score markes when she is maried


Well, it looks like 'the sick mens houses'................  :)

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Dates on the Will of Gregory Barns
« on: Friday 12 October 18 21:30 BST (UK)  »
Probate - 'vicesimo sexto Januarij 1610' , 26th Jan. (Use Google translate) - https://translate.google.com/#la/en/vicesimo%20sexto

Will is in December 1610 - the number of the date difficult to make out - 20th?

Added: As you no doubt know Matt, January 1610 came after December 1610 in those days, when the new year started in April.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Will of Richard Aylmer 1514
« on: Friday 12 October 18 21:13 BST (UK)  »
Willow, I have just scanned though Snippets 5 and 6.  It is all standard stuff - bequests for his soul, his wife's soul, the hospitals, the prisoners, the ankers and ankereses etc.

There's nothing of genealogical interest there and nothing new either.

Might we just bypass these snippets until he reaches something of interest?

Keep posting them all in pairs as you have been doing and one of us will scan them, until we find something worth transcribing.

I'd thought the same thing HD.
Glad you actually posted it! :)

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: deciphering a record
« on: Thursday 11 October 18 21:37 BST (UK)  »
There would seem to be another letter inbetween the 'leger' and 'wood' of the surnames of these children every time (4) it is written.
Possibly a 't' or an 'l' - he is not very good at 'crossing his ts'.
So probably 'ledgertwood'.

The witnesses are arthur Petrie of Newseal (?)
and James Urquhart in Burngrains.

(I can't see 'burgesses' in here).

Note both these place names quite difficult to make out the letters. You may have to do some searching around.

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