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Thanks Girls, you have been busy and greatly appreciate your help. You may have stumbled on something with that list, maybe the family left new Zealand and came back. You know how you keep things just in case. In 1878 (pastpapers)on the boat Soukar from London came John Wilson, Ellen Wilson, Mary Wilson, Ellen Wilson, Prunella Wilson, Edward Wilson, Alex Wilson and Ellen Wilson. That Prunella just stared out at me as being born in NZ. Wonder if same one as born here. Will look at this.

Yes I have copies of all these included in my research. I utilise Pastpapers and have all the children and death notices but no leads for parents. I have purchased the certificates  marriage/death for John Stewart Wilson and was provided the John Wilson and Ellen Sym from Northumberland as parents. That is all I have - my brick wall.

There is a John Stewart Wilson on the South Island and is a different one than the one I'm researching. From all accounts my didn't stray from the North Island it seems.

Yes electoral roll. Will try rootschat.

Have used pastpapers and no links with living family that I can tell. I also have the cemetery list for the old cemeteries, sourced from family still over there (NZ) that have helped out a lot. Thought throwing out may help, someone may find the link one day. I left it for a year and have come back to this side with fresh eyes, review and looked at again and again, nothing overlooked. A sibling with a easier name or something may help. Thank you for your great ideas, will relook again, maybe Scotland like you say

Have checked witnesses, no relation. I have had no luck finding anything on the parents or them arriving on a boat, way to many Wilsons arriving in that time frame in New Zealand. Also way to many Ellen/Helen/Eleanor marry John/Jack Wilsons to even have a guess at buying the correct one. Have no idea on other siblings. Did the census and the first one available shows him married and living with his wife, no others residing with them. Checked all censuses and never any older people with him, as sometimes they more in when one parent dies. But no luck he was also dead at 60 , had two wives, the second wife was half sister to the first wife. I have access to ancestry, but have very little on Northumberland on line. Did subscribe to family past for month but no luck like you said. Unless sym is incorrect, people did change names on travelling to leave ex hubby or something behind.