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Lancashire / Re: Edge / Baxendale / Platt - Chorley, Hindley, Atherton Area
« on: Friday 23 December 11 17:10 GMT (UK) »
Referring to thos last two preplies - how did you find that out then? I haven't been doing this for very long!
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Lancashire / Re: Edge / Baxendale / Platt - Chorley, Hindley, Atherton Area
« on: Friday 23 December 11 16:58 GMT (UK) »
By fluke I've come across some information (and based on some of the feedback in this thread).
Richard Baxendale, married Mary Ann Platt in 1852.
Two children: Nancy and Elizabeth. In the 1861 they're already living with their grandparents (the Platts) but the surnames have been spelt Backcendale.
Richard Baxendale, married Mary Ann Platt in 1852.
Two children: Nancy and Elizabeth. In the 1861 they're already living with their grandparents (the Platts) but the surnames have been spelt Backcendale.
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Lancashire / Re: Edge / Baxendale / Platt - Chorley, Hindley, Atherton Area
« on: Friday 23 December 11 16:34 GMT (UK) »
Are you sure these are the right Baxendales? They either seem to be born too late or too early?
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Lancashire / Re: Edge / Baxendale / Platt - Chorley, Hindley, Atherton Area
« on: Friday 23 December 11 16:09 GMT (UK) »
I've found some records for Richard and Sarah now, but can't see any record of Nancy...
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Lancashire / Re: Edge / Baxendale / Platt - Chorley, Hindley, Atherton Area
« on: Friday 23 December 11 16:05 GMT (UK) »
How've you done that then?
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Lancashire / Edge / Baxendale / Platt - Chorley, Hindley, Atherton Area
« on: Friday 23 December 11 15:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi All,
I'm banging my head against a brick wall here!
In 1881 I have Joseph Edge (28) married to Nancy Jane Edge (27), born in Chorley and Hindley respectively. As well as thei children, there is an Elizabeth Baxendale (24) recorded as sister. I presumed that Elizabeth is Nancy's sister and went on to try and find them in 1871.
The 1871 Census I can find of a Nancy Jane and an Elizabeth Baxendale is as follows:
John Platt (63) - Head
Ann Platt (64) - Wife
Jas Platt (27) - Son
Elizabeth Platt (5) - Daughter
Nancy Jane Bexendale (17) - Grand daughter
Elizabeth Baxendale (14) - Grand daughter
To me, that says that for whatever reason Nancy and Elizabeth live with their mothers parents, hence their mother maiden name must be Platt.
I am really struggling to find anything for the family (either Baxendale or Platt) in 1861.
I think I've got myself in a muddle and can't see the wood for the trees! If anyone could help I'd greatly appreciate it!
Regards,
Joe
I'm banging my head against a brick wall here!
In 1881 I have Joseph Edge (28) married to Nancy Jane Edge (27), born in Chorley and Hindley respectively. As well as thei children, there is an Elizabeth Baxendale (24) recorded as sister. I presumed that Elizabeth is Nancy's sister and went on to try and find them in 1871.
The 1871 Census I can find of a Nancy Jane and an Elizabeth Baxendale is as follows:
John Platt (63) - Head
Ann Platt (64) - Wife
Jas Platt (27) - Son
Elizabeth Platt (5) - Daughter
Nancy Jane Bexendale (17) - Grand daughter
Elizabeth Baxendale (14) - Grand daughter
To me, that says that for whatever reason Nancy and Elizabeth live with their mothers parents, hence their mother maiden name must be Platt.
I am really struggling to find anything for the family (either Baxendale or Platt) in 1861.
I think I've got myself in a muddle and can't see the wood for the trees! If anyone could help I'd greatly appreciate it!
Regards,
Joe
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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Records for Northern Ireland
« on: Sunday 22 August 10 23:19 BST (UK) »Also have information on Blacks- they moved near Andrews family which explains how John Henry and Mary Annie would have known each other.To ask a stupid question, three of the "children" left Northern Ireland (Scotland, NZ and U.S). Presumably this would just be due to a lack of work?
Hugh Black, son of Thomas Black, farmer, Cloughfin (Kilcronaghan), married 25 Oct.1876 Maghera Prsbyterian Church to Mary Jane Wilson (d.bef.1910), Tobermore. By 1886 they were living at Churchtown, Ballintemple and then Gortfad c1900. Children:
1. Thomas (c1878).
I have Thomas as being born on 18 October 1877 and dying on 17 November 1965, marrying Mary Ellen (or Elizabeth - conflicting) Andrews in Coatbridge on 5 November 1909. These are my Great Grandparents).
2. John Henry born 8 July 1879
Married Mary Anne Andrews on 31 December 1912 in Coleraine area. He died in Coatbridge on 26 October 1949.
I presume that Mary Ellen Andrews and Mary Anne Andrews were some kind of relation but according to what I have they weren't sisters.
3. Hugh Clarke** born c1882 killed in action 24 Aug.1918. He eigrated to NZ c1912.
Born on 21 April 1881 and as you say died in 1918. I didn't know that he emigrated and didn't know there was a photo of him. If there's somewhere to see that, it would mean a lot to my Dad I'm sure!
4. Henry Wilson "Harry" born c1884 went to U.S.
Born 28 June 1884.
5. Margaret Anne born c1887
Born 20 January 1887 and died 28 February 1967.
Family were in Gortfad for 1901 and 1911 census-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Glenkeen/Gortfad/1520233/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Glenkeen/Gortfad/591307/
** have photo of Hugh in WWI uniform
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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Records for Northern Ireland
« on: Sunday 22 August 10 22:38 BST (UK) »
Right! The emails popping up tempted me to come and have a look!
In order (I think).
Added- have a baptism for a John Henry Black 2 Oct.1878 son of John Black and Mary Henry
I think this must be a different John Henry Black, born with the same name, around the same time, but with different parents. I definitely have his parents as being Hugh Lyle Black and Mary Jane Wilson.
If it's the correct John Henry Black then I have details of lots of siblings, parents and grandparents. May have found your Mary Anne Andrews but will wait until you check your notes before posting any more details.
As I say I think this must be a different John, but possibly the same Mary Anne Andrews? Would be interested to know some more.
John Black married Mary Annie Andrews on 31 Dec 1912 in Garvagh 2nd Presbyterian Church, Coleraine District. Should Aghadowey's suggestion be correct then John Black married Mary Henry on 11 Dec 1862 in Coleraine Civil Registrar's office.
That confirms what I've got on record but gives more detail.
Actual marriage record (2nd/Main St. Presbyterian Church), 31 Dec.1912: John Black, full age, bachelor, foreman ironworks, 31 Kildonan St. Coatbridge Scotland, son of Hugh Black, farmer, to Mary Annie Andrews, full age, spinster, Garvagh, dau. of Joseph Andrews, farmer. Witnesses: Andrew W. Boyd, Maggie J. Andrews.
Even more info. again!
Here's Mary Annie Andrews and sister (probably witness on the wedding) in 1911-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Garvagh/Main_Street/591041/
And this look like family in 1901 living just outside Garvagh-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Glenkeen/Ballyrogan/1520117/
And in 1911-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Glenkeen/Ballyrogan/591197/
Thank you.
I have a Hugh Black who married Mary Jane Wilson on 25 Oct 1876 in Maghera Presbyterian Church.
Also a tentative Joseph Andrews who married Margaret Holmes on 4 Jun 1887 in Boveedy Presbyterian Church, Ballymoney District Co. Londonderry.
Thank you. I'll have to see if I can tie Joseph Andrews in to it all.
Attached is photo of Maggie Andrews' shop in Garvagh taken c1923. She married (1921) a widower, Alexander Cunningham.
Also have more details on Andrews family which I'd need to send by PM if you are interested.
Added- that section of Main St. has been demolished.
Very interesting thanks. Do we know what the shop was? Yes, I'd love for you to PM me some more information on the Andrews.
Just something you may find interesting, my name is Joseph Andrew Black, my father Andrew Black, my grandfather Joseph Andrew Black...his mothers surname Andrews. I presume that this is where "Andrew" came into our names. So now I know!
Thanks again to you both.
In order (I think).
Added- have a baptism for a John Henry Black 2 Oct.1878 son of John Black and Mary Henry
I think this must be a different John Henry Black, born with the same name, around the same time, but with different parents. I definitely have his parents as being Hugh Lyle Black and Mary Jane Wilson.
If it's the correct John Henry Black then I have details of lots of siblings, parents and grandparents. May have found your Mary Anne Andrews but will wait until you check your notes before posting any more details.
As I say I think this must be a different John, but possibly the same Mary Anne Andrews? Would be interested to know some more.
John Black married Mary Annie Andrews on 31 Dec 1912 in Garvagh 2nd Presbyterian Church, Coleraine District. Should Aghadowey's suggestion be correct then John Black married Mary Henry on 11 Dec 1862 in Coleraine Civil Registrar's office.
That confirms what I've got on record but gives more detail.
Actual marriage record (2nd/Main St. Presbyterian Church), 31 Dec.1912: John Black, full age, bachelor, foreman ironworks, 31 Kildonan St. Coatbridge Scotland, son of Hugh Black, farmer, to Mary Annie Andrews, full age, spinster, Garvagh, dau. of Joseph Andrews, farmer. Witnesses: Andrew W. Boyd, Maggie J. Andrews.
Even more info. again!
Here's Mary Annie Andrews and sister (probably witness on the wedding) in 1911-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Garvagh/Main_Street/591041/
And this look like family in 1901 living just outside Garvagh-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Glenkeen/Ballyrogan/1520117/
And in 1911-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Glenkeen/Ballyrogan/591197/
Thank you.
I have a Hugh Black who married Mary Jane Wilson on 25 Oct 1876 in Maghera Presbyterian Church.
Also a tentative Joseph Andrews who married Margaret Holmes on 4 Jun 1887 in Boveedy Presbyterian Church, Ballymoney District Co. Londonderry.
Thank you. I'll have to see if I can tie Joseph Andrews in to it all.
Attached is photo of Maggie Andrews' shop in Garvagh taken c1923. She married (1921) a widower, Alexander Cunningham.
Also have more details on Andrews family which I'd need to send by PM if you are interested.
Added- that section of Main St. has been demolished.
Very interesting thanks. Do we know what the shop was? Yes, I'd love for you to PM me some more information on the Andrews.
Just something you may find interesting, my name is Joseph Andrew Black, my father Andrew Black, my grandfather Joseph Andrew Black...his mothers surname Andrews. I presume that this is where "Andrew" came into our names. So now I know!
Thanks again to you both.
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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Records for Northern Ireland
« on: Sunday 22 August 10 20:40 BST (UK) »
To be a bit cheeky - could you tell me where you are finding this information?
I am registered on a well known and advertised website for searching and recording but getting nowhere fast!
I am registered on a well known and advertised website for searching and recording but getting nowhere fast!
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