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Thank you very much for the reply, I think our research maybe along the same lines and quite close

I have Thomas Butlers wife as Elizabeth Lapham, there are a lot of connections between the Laphams and the Butlers, Thomas Butler even gets "his good Friend Joseph Lapham of Cork street" to pay the journey money for the Settlers to travel out to SA. I think Elizabeth Lapham had a sister Sarah and she Married  Jeremiah Hanks 04 Nov 1794 in the Meath Street Meeting House, Dublin, Ireland.

Sarah Hanks nee Lapham parents are William Lapham and Mary Russel



Both Sarah Hanks and Elizabeth had daughters named Matilda around the same time and Elizabeth had a son Joseph Lapham Butler born 1809 in Wicklow. My other Kildare Butler line also has blood ties with the Laphams

I read the story of taxes and the agent running off with the money and Thomas being held responsible of the loss.

I have not found any daughters for Thomas Bell but I did come across that death record for Sarah Parke nee Boake in the quaker records, I need to revist that record.

I have 8 children + Mary for Thomas Parkes

Elizabeth Butler returned to Ireland in 1827 with her youngest son George she attended Quaker meetings in Endenderry as a non member, she died in 1847 and is buried in Rathangan Kildare Quaker cemetery, I can find no trace of George. When Elizabeth return to Ireland she must have to her family after the terrible experince in SA   

I went back to John Mongomery and Elizabeth Faulkner to get a wider view of the Montgomery Line.

I am a little late to this thread.

I have recently found out that I share YDNA with Captain Thomas Butler who led the Irish settlers out to South Africa in 1820. I am not a descendant of Captain Thomas Butler rather my Kildare Butler line and Thomas's line share a common Ancestor.

I have read through John Montgonerys book and to paraphase John he writes his mother Mary Parkes born 1762 and the wife of Captain Thomas Butler, Elizabeth, grew up together. I have Sarah Parkes Nee Boakes death as 29 Aug 1750 from Quaker records, if this is correct she cannot be the mother of Mary Parkes born 1762, even if the the death date is incorrect Sarah Parkes Nee Boakes would have been 50 years old when Mary was born.

I am told that Mary was brought up by her sister Margery Park and her husband Ephraim Boake, an interesting marriage as Margery is Ephraim Boake's niece, again the quaker records. If Ephraim Boake and Magery did bring up Mary then that puts Mary in the same area as Elizabeth the wife of Captain Thomas Butler and brings credence to Johns book.

I am interested in the Christian Name of the daughter of Thomas Bell who married Thomas Parke of Baranstown, Wicklow or any additional information.

This is an extreamly interesting bit of research

https://www.1820settlers.com/genealogy/settlershowparty.php?party=Butler

 

I am looking for any information on the Butlers of Whitehall House Lathaleere Baltinglass Wicklow Lathaleere Baltinglass Wicklow, looking at Griffiths it is a substantial property. I know a Thomas Butler lived there and took a number of Wicklow families to settle in South Africa around 1820, I have read through his correspondence regarding the resettlement. Griffiths makes reference to a Pierce Butler and I think there was a George and a William Butler.

Whitehall House  no longer stands, its very early days researching this line but any assistance would be gratefully received.

Henry Hebert Beasley was the son of James Lapham Beasley and Harriet Ann Pope daughter of Major Edward Harmon Pope and Lettia Hughes of Popefield Athy. It was Henrys Uncle Thomas Harman Pope who first taught the Beasley brothers to ride.