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baptisms for children of Isaac & Ann Williams in Aberdare
4 April 1862
David age 6
Sarah Ann 4
Ellen 2
Isaac engineer address Cwmbach
3 Aug 1862 Catherine 9 months
18 June 1869 William Thomas Isaac engine driver

Nothing for Mary as yet.

Possible death notice for Isaac?
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3519021/3519023/7/

Died 25 Sept 1886 in Ystradyfodwg but home address 7 Lucy Row Cwmbach, admin to son David Isaac Williams. Death reg age 58 sept qtr 1886 Pontypridd vol  11a pg 282

Hi
Can you tell me where the above death information for Isaac Williams was obtained in particular the address of 7 Lucy Row, Cwmbach?. The above newspaper notice and the Death Reg do not refer to this address.
Regards
colincam

Hi
I have been trying to find a death record for Ann Harris but so far without success.
She is not with her husband Isaac in Cefnpennar, Aberdare in the 1871 Census and her last child, William Thomas was born in 1869 so that should narrow it down considerably.
I must admit to be struggling with Welsh place names. Can you help me with this?
Regards
colincam

possible marriage 28 May 1855 parish church of Merthyr Tydfil
Isaac Williams 27 bach engineman Abercanaid father David Williams miner
Ann Harris 23 spinster servant Abercanaid father William Harris carpenter
witnesses John Edwards & Thomas Phillips, all signed apart from Ann.

Possible birth reg Mary Williams june qtr 1865 Merthyr Tydfil vol 11a pg 420 mmn Harris

Hi Osprey
I did notice the above birth reg but when I looked it up on FreeBMD, I could find no reference to mmn Harris. Perhaps you have access to more information than me?
I checked out the Mary I Williams birth with the Cardiff Registry Office and they confirmed it was not the right person
Regards
colincam

Hi Osprey
The ideal marriage between David Williams and Sarah would be one which took place just before
baby Sarah's birth in Sep 1814. Sadly I can't find one in that category anywhere in Glamorganshire in Ancestry.
The only ones I can find in Wales are the following
Sarah Lewis 1 Dec 1812, Carmarthenshire
Sarah Williams 5 Oct 1812 Denbighshire
Sarah Roger 14 May 1811 Monmouthshire
Sarah Rees 16 Mar 1813 Breconshire
But since our Sarah was born in Glamorganshire and baby Sarah was born in Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, I am not too impressed with any of the above.
I don't indulge in guesswork
Regards
colincam

Hi
Regarding the two new marriages for David Williams and Sarah:-
The 1822 one with Sarah Buckley is not a possibility because Jacob was born in 1819
The 1815 one with Sarah Williams fits better with the children we are aware of than the 1806 one with Sarah Richard. But David Williams and Sarah might have had children that had left home by the time of the 1841 Census.
Regards
colincam

Hi again
Sarah would have been 29 in 1815 and 20 in 1806 based on the 1841 Census if my arithmetic is correct so I think the 1806 marriage is more likely in these days
I also think Isaac b 1828 would probably have been her last child. She would have been 42 by then
What do you think of my logic?
Regards
colincam