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Loooking at the NRS catalogue, it shows CH2/716/1 as 'Minutes and discipline' while CH2/716/4 is simply 'Minutes'.
Maybe they preferred to separate matters into a different register (minutes and discipline) once the people had been found to have done something wrong and were to face some kind of punishment. But until the facts had been established and they had been found guilty the people would be discussed in the normal kirk session minute books. Does this sound like it fits the way the entries switch from one register to another?

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Midlothian / Re: Help reading occupation and parish 1817
« on: Monday 05 July 21 16:08 BST (UK)  »
I'm glad that map has proved useful for many people. I drew it and added it to my website for exactly this type of query.
In the mid 1980's I came across a large map with the parish boundaries and thought it might be handy at some time in the future. I had to photocopy it in lots of small parts, glue them together and hand colour it with watercolour. Things are a lot easier these days with good graphics software  :)
Alb

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Scotland / Re: Testaments in the Glasgow Commissariot not on scotlandspeople.
« on: Friday 22 January 21 02:38 GMT (UK)  »
It is basically what it says.  If an entry is in Volume 2, folio 5 it will be found on page 5 of volume 2

To find an entry you would normally just go to the book with the right covering date and find it in the volume using the index date as they were recorded in date order.  So if no registration dates were recorded in volume 2, the page number is needed to find it.

Alb

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Midlothian / Re: Why would a couple have two marriage certificates 1906 and 1907?
« on: Monday 27 April 20 01:14 BST (UK)  »
Only a certain number of soldiers were granted permission to marry, this was known as marrying 'on the strength'. This allowed the couple to live in married quarters and the wife and children had rights to various payments or allowances. If a soldier married without permission, the wife and any children could not live together and had no rights to any allowances, pension payments etc. I can't remember if this is all correct from memory but you get the idea.
I wonder if this second marriage was conducted after permission to marry on the strength was given?

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Midlothian / Re: opinions please.
« on: Saturday 18 April 20 17:03 BST (UK)  »
it is
2nd  |   Jo: [John] Sutherland at burnmouth of Kintyrie had a son Sylvester bapt: [baptised]

I've checked early Ordnance Survey maps and this seems to be correct as I found Kintyrie and Burnmouth located very near to each other but no place actually called 'Burnmouth of Kintyrie'. I had to stich two OS maps together for the image below but here's the link to the Kintyrie part.
https://maps.nls.uk/view/75534464

alb



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Midlothian / Re: Parish of St Mary in Edinburgh
« on: Friday 15 March 19 13:41 GMT (UK)  »
Glad you like my map. In the 1980s I came across a map with the Edinburgh parish boundaries and took a photocopy thinking this might be useful at some time in the future.
It did take some doing about 15 years ago trying to work off the old black and white copy to get the boundaries right, also using other sources to ensure old and new town boundaries were right.

Looking at it now, maybe I should note on the page that the unnamed white area between St Andrews and south Leith is like that because it was too complex. There were various strips intermixed that were too small to be labelled on the original map with the parish they belonged to.

Alb

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Midlothian / Re: a Place in Newton Midlothian
« on: Friday 15 March 19 13:09 GMT (UK)  »
It is not the same. This link will open up an detailed Ordnance survey Map (6 inched to the mile) around 1888-1913, centred on Pentecox in Newton Parish. https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=15&lat=55.9200&lon=-3.1400&layers=5&b=1

The cottages are still there, only the Smithy seems to have gone.  see this link to google maps https://goo.gl/maps/hTd1TABjHr52

Pentecox in Newton is described in 1850s as 'A range of cottages in good repair tenanted chiefly by labourers' (from Ordnance Survey name books).

Alb

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Scotland / Re: 18th century coal mining
« on: Sunday 03 March 19 14:09 GMT (UK)  »
It does seem too much of a coincidence given the date of birth and Morton Coal Houses being in a mining district. Robert Inglis said that his father and grandfather worked for Prestongrange, so it's likely that James Inglis had run away and settled in the Durham coalfield in England (the first coalmining area he would have encountered going south) thinking it was far enough to be safe.
The Lairds of Prestongrange were very cruel to the workers even by the standards of the day, probably the worst in Mid or east Lothian from reading the evidence given to the Franks Commission. This makes me think that they would have trouble attracting colliers temporarily released from other coalworks making it essential that they did everything possible to find and bring back any of their own runaway colliers to maintain the number of colliers.
There is no direct connection between Prestongrange, Liberton and Sir John Hope. Even before 1775, when a coalwork closed or there was no work for them, by law the colliers were free to go elsewhere under certain conditions (in practice it was a real grey area but i won't go into that and it's been partly covered in some previous answers) so as coalworks closed, opened, expanded or contracted, colliers moved from place to place. I think New Craighall didn't open until 1831.

Alb

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Lanarkshire / Re: Adoption Register
« on: Sunday 03 March 19 11:18 GMT (UK)  »
I would say that as that column is specifically just the purpose of showing date of birth if allowed, then you can safely assume it is the date of birth.
From your question it sounds like the one thing missing from the extract is the date of adoption

Alb

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