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Europe / Re: German Birth Certificate - Need assistance to decipher
« on: Monday 30 October 17 23:59 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Phil,

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As for your query I am not sure how much help I can be - I am located in Australia, so US or Austrian research isn't too easy from here. :-)

No problem. :)  - See, I'm just asking each and everyone doing family research about "our" missing Stefan HASSA as you never know who might have come across any additional info about him by chance or might have helpful hints or suggestions for further research.

Proceeded in this same manner in order to obtain as much info as possible about a cousin of mine who practically vanished from our family as a 2 year old boy during the more or less chaotic months around the end of WW II.
Eventually I had thus collected sufficiently enough data to apply for an official search for him at the German Red Cross.
And believe it or not they actually found him for me roughly 15 years ago and we are now keeping good contact even though he's living more than 500 miles south of us.

So my above query was just a mere try to shed some light on another still "pending matter".

Good luck for your further research and don't hesitate to contact me should you think I could give you any additional help.

Rgds,
Gisela

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Europe / Re: German Birth Certificate - Need assistance to decipher
« on: Saturday 28 October 17 21:32 BST (UK)  »
Hi Phil,

always glad to help :)

Just being curious: Was Paul Große anything like an artist as well?

Don't know whether you are able to help me with my HASSA/STEINER family. Seem to have lost track of some of them in New Jersey, USA, e.g. of Stefan HASSA *1847 in Austria, a widower who immigrated on 13.10.1908 from Antwerp on SS Zeeland.
His 1. known residence (1908) was: 514 Elm St, West Hoboken, NJ at his son's Stefan (Stephan) HASSA address!!
Have found him on Ellis Island Records and Familysearch, but seem to be unable to trace him after 1908. Did he die in the USA or return to Austria ???

Already posted a similar query on the USA Lookup requests... but so far Stefan seems to just have vanished in the haze of family history  :(

However, should you need further help with older (German) documents, just let me know again and I'll see what I can do for you.

Have a nice weekend,
Rgds from stormy Hamburg,
Gisela

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Europe / Re: German Birth Certificate - Need assistance to decipher
« on: Saturday 28 October 17 00:53 BST (UK)  »
Hi Phil,

here we go again.
 
Sorry it took me a bit longer. I hardly ever manage to work on my PC at home much before midnight.

As I didn't know how well you were/are able to read the original certificate I transcribed it before translation:

Wurzen, am 5. Februar 1887

Vor dem unterzeichneten Standesbeamten erschien heute, der Persönlichkeit nach

bekannt,
die Hebamme Frau Dorothea Henrietta Weiser geborene Müller
wohnhaft zu Wurzen,Färbergasse Nr. 22 ______
________ Religion, und zeigte an, daß von der
Antonia Helena Große geborene Meyer,
Ehefrau des Bildhauers Edmund Große,
beide lutherischer Religion,
wohnhaft bei ihrem Ehemanne zu Wurzen,
Dresdenerstraße Nr.19
zu Wurzen in der Wohnung ihres Ehemannes
am einunddreißigsten Januar des Jahres
tausend acht hundert achtzig und sieben Vormittags
um fünf ____ Uhr ein Kind männlichen
Geschlechtes geboren worden sei, welches den _____ Vornamen
Paul _____________________________
erhalten habe. Die Frau Weiser erklärte, daß sie bei
der Niederkunft der Ehefrau Große zugegen
gewesen sei.
Vorgelesen, genehmigt und unterschrieben
Dorothea Henrietta Weiser
____________
Der Standesbeamte.
In Vertretung, Weiser(?)



TRANSLATION

Wurzen, February 5, 1887

Today before the undersigned registrar appeared the midwife Mrs. Dorothea Henriette WEISER, nee MÜLLER, personally known,
living in Wurzen, Färbergasse No.22,
and announced that Antonia Helena GROßE, nee MEYER, wife of sculptor Edmund GROßE,
both of Lutheran denomination,
living together with her husband in Wurzen, Dresdenerstraße No.19,
on January 31, 1887 at five o'clock am at her husband's dwelling in Wurzen
gave birth to a child of male sex , who received the Christian name Paul.

Mrs. WEISER declared that she attended Mrs. GROßE's confinement.

Read aloud, accepted and signed
Dorothea Henrietta Weiser
The Registrar
for, Weiser(?)

Hope the translation gives you some more useful info on your great grandfather's family.
Rgds,
Gisela

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Europe / Re: German Birth Certificate - Need assistance to decipher
« on: Friday 27 October 17 03:58 BST (UK)  »
Hi phiblack,

here's just for the beginning:

Mother's name: Antonia Helena GROßE, nee MEYER

Father's name: Edmund GROßE

Should you want a complete translation of the certificate, let me know. In this case I'd need a bit more time as the working day is just starting here in Good Old Germany.

Rgds from Hamburg,
Giselap

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US Lookup Requests / Re: HASSA-Family in NJ - more help needed
« on: Wednesday 25 October 17 01:32 BST (UK)  »
Now looking for Franz (Frank) J HASSA's further family:

Grandfather Stefan HASSA *1847 in Moravia.

Immigration 13.10.1908 from Antwerp on SS Zeeland.
1. place of residence: 514 Elm St, West Hoboken, NJ, living at his son's Stefan (Stephan/Stephen) HASSA home!!

His son Stefan (Stephan/Stephen) HASSA *1874 in Moravia (Frank's father) immigrated 06.10.1902 from Antwerp on SS Vaderland, last known residence (1920/30): 721 Walnut St, West Hoboken, Hudson, NJ.

Was Frank's grandfather a widower on arrival? Where and when did he die?
Where and when did Frank's father and mother Aloisia (Louisa/Louise) BREER *1876 in Moravia die?

Any kind help will again be highly appreciated.
Thanks and rgds,
Giselap

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United States of America / Re: Marriage of first grade cousins
« on: Tuesday 24 October 17 00:34 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for this really helpful link, Sandra.

Rgds
Giselap

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United States of America / Re: Marriage of first grade cousins
« on: Monday 23 October 17 23:07 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for your quick reply, KGerrad!

That really helped me a lot answering the question why on earth a female immigrant to US should have changed her actual surname sometime between arrival and marrage in NJ.

Thanks again and rgds,
Giselap

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United States of America / Marriage of first grade cousins
« on: Monday 23 October 17 22:44 BST (UK)  »
Wonder whether first grade cousins were able to obtain a marriage license in New Jersey in the earlier 20th century?

I know that it was almost impossible for cousins to get an allowance to marry after 1930 in Germany.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Rgds,
Giselap


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US Lookup Requests / Re: HASSA-Family in New Jersey
« on: Sunday 22 October 17 02:43 BST (UK)  »
Thank you shellyesq for your comment on Genealogy Bank.

And a my very biggest thank you to RJ137.  :D
Around the mid 1950ties we seem to have lost track of those members of our family who had emigrated to the USA in the early 1900s and were never really able to retrace most of them.
As a matter of fact before starting research due to my interest in genealogy, I didn't even know that so many of our family and friends emigrated to the USA.

However, it proved nearly impossible to pick up old family connections after almost a 100 years' time.  :(
Thus, I'm more than glad and thankful whenever at least finding out what became of "our" emigrants.

By the way Marie's maiden name actually was HASSA, her parents never got married because her father Friedrich STEINER committed suicide while her mother Matilda HASSA was already pregnant with her. Matilda Hassa never got married and died in Moravia before Marie's emigration.
Wonder why Marie should have "changed" her maiden name. ???

Anyway, thank you ever so much again RJ137 for all your help.

Rgds,
Giselap

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