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Antrim / Re: Skelton family
« on: Thursday 26 April 18 06:10 BST (UK)  »
Hi Wazzag

If you are still working on the Skelton family and have that birth certificate now, then the additional information from that could tell me if your Skelton family links to any of the Skeltons in Templepatrick who belong to my family.

There are multiple Courtney/Skelton/Wiley marriages in my tree starting from about 1800.


Linda NZ

Derry (Londonderry) / Re: The [Church of Ireland] Doherty's of Londonderry
« on: Friday 09 March 18 12:14 GMT (UK)  »
Aha. I think I just worked out why my grandmother's Dougherty family don't show up in Hallmark's search. They recorded their Co of origin as "Co Derry" and in Hallmark's search only those recorded as "Londonderry" are captured. These little traps can trip you up.

Ireland / Re: William Stirling
« on: Friday 09 March 18 12:02 GMT (UK)  »
The Ballynoe Stirlings all appear to be farmers judging by the wills in PRONI.

One William Stirling of Ballynoe should have died Dec 1880 according to the probate record but I cannot see the corresponding death registration.  This William's will says he had only one son, also named William and a nephew James Stirling.  Also named are daughters and several grandchildren.

Derry (Londonderry) / Re: The [Church of Ireland] Doherty's of Londonderry
« on: Friday 09 March 18 07:19 GMT (UK)  »
I liked the CofI Doherty list that Hallmark produced so borrowed that and changed religion to Presbyterian. Which brought up the Cromkill family that I suspect are related to my 2x gt grandfather Henry Doherty of Coolkeeragh family. Also a few location overlaps with the CoI list.

Then I tried the Dougherty spelling my grandmother's family used but her family did not appear. Maybe one modification too many?  The family do appear at Creevagh in 1911 if I simply search by my gt Aunt Violet Dougherty.

I cannot see any overlap with captainbeecher family though.

Another variant that might be useful Dogherty.


Ireland / Re: William Stirling
« on: Friday 09 March 18 00:11 GMT (UK)  »
On checking further in the tree of a descendant of Elizabeth Stirling, I see that her father Thomas Stirling is listed as one of several children of a William Stirling born c1780. No spouse given.

Robert and William with spouses from previous post are listed as siblings of Thomas. James is also listed but no spouses given.

There is also a brother Hugh and sister Elizabeth.

Also another William Stirling born c1755 listed as father of William born c1780.

Ireland / Re: William Stirling
« on: Thursday 08 March 18 23:52 GMT (UK)  »
I have an Elizabeth Stirling b 1827 in my tree who married one of my Dunsilly, Antrim Millars.

Another tree has her parents as Thomas Stirling and Ann Jane Campbell of Donegore. They married at Donegore Presbyterian Church on 19 May 1826. Thomas was from Ballynoe and Ann from Halftown.

There are several more Stirling marriages in Donegore in the 1820s, incuding a James Stirling of Ballynoe who married an Ellen Jamison of Ballysavage in 1827 and, if the same James, an Eliza Jamison of Browndodd in 1828.

Another two names are William Stirling of Ballynoe who married Margaret Wilson in 1829 and Robert Stirling of Ballynoe who married Margaret harbison in 1839.

Could be worth exploring these families and posting on Antrim site to see if anyone has more information .

Sligo / Re: any information on my great Grandfather William Davis
« on: Monday 26 February 18 12:29 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Hallmark for the links to wills.

Thomas Black of Lugawarry who died 1913 was the husband of Jane Black nee Livingston, youngest sister of my gt grandfather William Livingston. Their son was William Livingston Black who died 1968 and is buried at Rathbarron.

Wm L Black was married to Daisy Tuach, granddaughter of my gt grandfather's oldest sister Ann Livingston. Wm L Black's daughter Muriel who died 1987 was the wife of John McMaster of Rathbarron,who farmed the original Livingston farm at Rathbarron. We actually don't know where the Livingstons were pre 1825 , though it is possible they came from Glasgow.



Sligo / Re: any information on my great Grandfather William Davis
« on: Monday 26 February 18 11:49 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Joan,

Thomas Livingston of Rathbarron b1782and wife Ann are my 3x gt grandparents. John Livingston b c1812 of Gortakeeran and wife Mary Wallace from Easky are my 2x gt grandparents.

My gt grandfather William Livingston b1856 who was in the RIC married Margaret Clarke from Carrownree, Skreen. They went to live in Londonderry after William retired from the RIC and that is where my grandparents met. Grandfather Oswald George Livingston and grandmother Wilhelmina Foster Dougherty came out to NZ in 1922 shortly after they married.

I try not to name living people when posting so will stop there. I will send you a personal message a bit later.

By the way William's brother Jeremiah Livingston b1847 was also in the RIC and lived in Cavan. His only son was John James Livingston of Coolnacarrick. Arthur met up with him when he was in his 90s. Glad to know Arthur is still alive as I have not heard from him since Zoe died. Arthur did a huge amount of research on the Livingstons after he moved to Cuiltybar.

When my parents visited Ireland in 1982 they met up with and chatted with  another NZ couple on the ferry across to Ireland. I am fairly sure that may have been Eileen's grandson or perhaps his parents as when my parents knocked on Eileen's door there were cries of "what are you doing here" as the same couple were visiting Eileen.



Sligo / Re: any information on my great Grandfather William Davis
« on: Sunday 25 February 18 00:49 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Joan,

My original post about the Rathbarron farm was misleading in that the Davis who was in the other half of the duplex farmhouse was Thomas Davis, not the father of James Davis who married Ann Livingston pre 1845. There is probably some connection but I do not know it.

Actually I am not sure of the source which identifies William Davis and Catherine Armstrong as the parents of James Davis. Those are the parents as seen in the Davis Ancestry tree but back in 1999 James parents had not been identified. William Davis of Coolaney was a soldier and alive in 1824 as per Tithes.

Mary Ann Crean b 1885, daughter of Eliza Davis and Daniel Crean, and granddaughter of Ann Livingston, married John Martin Thompson. They were the parents of Eileen Thompson who married John Black.



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