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Other Countries / Re: St Helena: Grant family circa 1850's
« on: Sunday 04 December 16 21:03 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Jenbrie

Interested to find another fellow "Grant Explorer!

My connection to the Grant family is via my 2gAunt Alice Whitcomb 1858-1941 who married one of Charles Grants’ sons, a William Richard Grant 1850-1904.

My information mainly deals with this branch of the family, but I have some more general "Tree's .

Yes, you are correct in identifying the strong military connections and subsequent travels of various  family members. My Alice &  William Richard started their family in Bermuda, then Ireland & the UK.
William Richard was in the Royal Engineers’ submarine mining section, they were responsible for protecting the Royal Navy’s shore establishments - dock yards etc upto 1900. Mainly they laid mine fields to protect the harbour approaches.

I would be pleased to send you copies of my data, But there seems to be no private message facility??




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Other Countries / Re: St Helena: Grant family circa 1850's
« on: Thursday 10 January 13 18:27 GMT (UK)  »
Hi

Thanks for the replies, very helpful. I've already the downloaded the census and military record and they tie in very well - thanks again.

The 1861 census seems to emphasise Charles Grant's military service rather than his profession, however Louisa is stated to be a school mistress. From other information I have Charles Grant was a Tailor, it appears he had many facets!

From another web contact I have just found a marriage date for Charles & Louisa:
Charles Grant married Louisa Palmer 21st January 1832 – Walcott Somerset 
they had Caroline Augusta Grant Christened 17th December 1834, St Maurice, Winchester &
  Benjamin Grant 4th January 1841, Parish of St. Maurice, Winchester.


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Other Countries / St Helena: Grant family circa 1850's
« on: Thursday 10 January 13 14:51 GMT (UK)  »
Hi
I have a William Richard Grant in my tree who was born on St Helena circa 1850. (all his records confirm this). At the time of his marriage he was a Sergeant in the Royal Engineers (sub-marine mining corps), stationed at Pembroke Dock in Wales. His wife, Alice Whitcomb, was a 2g Aunt of mine. They had around 9 Children, many of whom were born at different places where William was stationed. (Bermuda to Chatham etc!) Charles Grant was born circa 1806.

I've been led to believe that William's parents were a Charles & Louisa Grant from Winchester, Hampshire, and that Charles may have been a soldier. There is a census record from 1841 which has a family consisting of a Charles & Louisa Grant living in Winchester, at the time they also had 2 children living - Benjamin aged 4 months & Caroline aged 6 years - Charles appears to have been a Tailor?

There are no subsequent UK census records of this family until 1871 when a widowed Charles Grant
turns up as a lodger in Winchester. This would tie in with the family having gone / emigrated to St Helena before 1851. One question is why did Charles go to St Helena, was he a Soldier or a Tailor did he join up to 'see the World' ???

Information gleaned from various web sources suggests that 'my' William Grant may have been a brother of a Benjamin Grant who was well known on the island - this Benjamin was born circa 1834
(place not known) and was the editor of a St Helena newspaper.

If I could find a birth record of 'my' William Richard Grant born circa 1850 on St Helena island, that may go towards fixing which family he actually belonged to. I have searched the GRO overseas births, and the overseas military births but to no avail.

So help, anyone got any ideas?????

Ray Whitcombe

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Europe / Re: Belgian Relatives - Warning!
« on: Sunday 06 November 11 11:06 GMT (UK)  »
GeneaNet have now responded to my concerns. Their Moderators remarks are copied below:

GeneaNet is a French website and the French privacy laws applies to GeneaNet.

This is a collaborative genealogy website and everyone may verify the data provided by other researchers before they add it to their own family tree.

To contact a GeneaNet member:
- you can send an email (the email address is given in the Contact Page)

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The French law allows you to ask for the deletion of all information about yourself and your children. If the member doesn't answer or if he/she doesn't want to delete this information, you can ask us for the deletion.

GeneaNet also has a feature that allow members to hide living persons in their family tree.

I understand that you are not pleased that you found incorrect information about your aunt but we can't do anything. There are incorrect information from personal family trees in every genealogy website worldwide.
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From this it seems that by default it is up to the poster of Tree data to specify what can or cannot be published. This is unlike most other sites who do not normally allow details of 'Living Persons' to be published other then on a 'Private' page.

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Europe / Belgian Relatives - Warning!
« on: Tuesday 01 November 11 18:24 GMT (UK)  »
I have Belgian roots and living Relatives on my Mother's side and have now reached the point of wishing to add to our Family history from this perspective.

I found some of the 'tips' on this forum very helpful and together with Google began to 'forage' around. There are some local history sites around in Belgium, and one was able to give the names of 2g grandparents. Also the Belgian national Archives are a mine of information, but much of their data is 'ongoing', thus not complete. However I found some very useful information, as well as an unknown relative! As I do not speak Dutch, and only 'rough' French I expected a problem, however Google translate is very good at translating this type of stuff.

Now a word of warning! I came across the web site "GeneaNet", which has a lot of French and Belgian family trees posted freely on line. I joined this site (for free), and put in my Mother's family name - luckily not a very common one even in Belgium where it originates from?  Up came a reasonable list, but few lined up with any known ancestors or locations, that is except for one, my Aunt! I opened the tree, and to my absolute surprise it listed all my Cousins plus their Children up to the present, all living people!!!

I contacted my Cousin to enquire which one of them allowed this info to be posted, but he was as in the dark as myself!!! I tried to contact the publishers, but up to now they have ignored me. Actually there are a few 'typos' in the tree and I / We would like them to be corrected. My Aunt was 'fostered' after the death of her Mother in 1919, and the "GeneaNet" tree does not reveal this, thus erasing her true Ancestral history. (At least this has prevented my details being plastered all over the web!)

My warning is that be very careful if using the "GeneaNet" site as they don't appear to filter out living people from the published trees. This could be a security risk, and also some family members may object to having such details floating around on the web!!!

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