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Heraldry Crests and Coats of Arms / Re: Coat of Arms Deciphering
« on: Sunday 18 February 18 12:44 GMT (UK)  »
Here's a screenshot of the section of Renesse which applies to boars with one tree in European arms. I'm not sure what is in chief - definitely a mullet in sinister chief but no idea about the dexter - could be a crescent?? The horizontal lines are Azure (blue).


The Common Room / Re: Help with finding grandad.
« on: Friday 16 February 18 16:52 GMT (UK)  »
Could he be Irish? There is a Richard Barry, son of Thomas Barry and Margaret Barry Brown born in 1879 at Edendarif, Down, Ireland on Ancestry. I can't find him later though (still looking).


The Common Room / Re: Problem with Ancestry DNA Matches
« on: Thursday 15 February 18 18:13 GMT (UK)  »

This happened to me the other day - it sorted itself out after a little while and hasn't done it again. At the moment, mine is OK today. Hope it goes back to normal soon.


Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help identifying this bridge please.
« on: Sunday 11 February 18 13:03 GMT (UK)  »
I also thought they gate looked a bit like a Church / graveyard. I've been 'street viewing' my way along the Sussex railways around Arundel / Pulborough etc and haven't seen it yet. Certainly feels familiar though - one place that came to mind was West Grinstead ... but haven't found a picture yet.


Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help identifying this bridge please.
« on: Sunday 11 February 18 11:16 GMT (UK)  »
Interesting! My first thoughts on the bridge was that it was over the railway, but not sure ... I've asked my parents to have a look - Dad knows that area VERY well and might just recognise it if it is one of the villages round Arundel.


There were different systems of "hatching" in use, and the horizontal lines could also mean Or (gold/yellow) or Gules (red).
I didn't realise that - thank you!

However, even using Or (gold) or Gules (red) I can find no trace of these arms with either a 'mullet' or a 'cinquefoil'.  The closest is still the arms of Docminique but I can see no link between the person who bore those arms and Stewart.  Having said that I am guessing that Stewart may have Scottish links and I know nothing about Scottish heraldry.

As for the difference between arms and a crest - the latter is the bit you see sitting on top of the shield.  The 'arms' are on the shield and are described in heraldic language which is called a blazon.

But, unless you know of a link to the Docminique family I think we need to look again further afield to find the origin of these arms, specifically with a cinquefoil (five leaved plant at the bottom) rather than a mullet (looks like a star)



Iím out at the moment but will try to explain it all later if no one else does before - but the name associated with these arms (itís not a crest) is Docminique.


Yes definitely Azure with those horizontal line. I thought it was a cinquefoil at first but couldn't find anything and then thought it must be Docminique as everything else fitted.  He seems to have been an MP with Huguenot origins.  :D


I think the blazon (heraldic description) should be "Azure a chevron Argent between in chief two crescents and in base a mullet Or." Papworth's Ordinary gives the armiger as Docminique of London.


PS Welcome to Rootschat!

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