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Limerick / Re: Marriage in Limerick Cathedral 1827
« on: Tuesday 16 January 24 10:55 GMT (UK)  »
I will reserve judgment on that jc26red until I can see the registers of St. Mary and St John both
churches that recorded baptisms of the George Maunsell family.  Not every child of George Maunsell
has been recorded by researchers.  Just today I located a daughter of George and Frances, Helena,
who died in 1805, there could be several more as there are gaps in the baptism dates of their
children.  Added to this Mary's daughter Frances Maria bears a remarkable likeness to the image
of her possible uncle Rev. Robert Maunsell.  She is a Maunsell descendant and has a connection
to the Frances Fitzgerald Magrath line but where she fits into that line remains to be discovered.

Limerick General Advertiser 10.1.1805  (death)  Last Sunday evening at the Customs House Miss Helena Maunsell daughter of George Maunsell Esq. Collector.

LGA (marriage) 22.5.1812.  On Friday last (15/5) by special licence at Monkstown church near Dublin Thomas Grady jun. Esq. of Belmont County Limerick to Julia, eldest daughter of George
Maunsell Esq.
This is the daughter of George Maunsell's marriage to Anne Smythe and noted in reply #9 by
jc26red.

Freeman's Journal 21.8.1793   At the Customs House Limerick the lady of George Maunsell Esq.
Collector, of a daughter.

So here are two daughters not previously mentioned by researchers, I can't dismiss the
possibility of the existence of Mary.

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Limerick / Re: Marriage in Limerick Cathedral 1827
« on: Tuesday 16 January 24 08:08 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, Sinann, I wondered about the wording of the marriage report as well.   George Maunsell
of Milford died in 1835.  There is a news report of 11th Sept. 1830 in the Dublin Evening Post
noting that George Maunsell, late Collector of Limerick has debts and schedule of same may be
applied for.   I have not read the complete article on FindMyPast only the extract.  It appears he has
resigned from his position as Collector on a yearly pension of 1,500 pounds which reverted to the
Crown upon his death.  So it is possible that he left Limerick prior to this news report of 1830
possibly around the time of Mary's wedding and the wording refers to this.  The question needs
to be asked as to how much credence should be given to a newspaper report and its wording.
It is far more convincing to have church records that confirm or refute any hypothesis.

It would appear that his money issues may have persisted as his will of 1834 retracts earlier
settlements of 6,000 pounds for each of his children and reduces that amount to 2,000 pounds,
so he was not completely penniless!  Considering that the Griffiths valuation of Milford House,
his residence, was  only 25 pounds his monetary assets were considerable.  He jointly owned
a private bank in Dublin in partnership with 2 of his brothers.



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Limerick / Re: Marriage in Limerick Cathedral 1827
« on: Tuesday 16 January 24 00:04 GMT (UK)  »
Sinann, Thankyou so much for the link to the Limerick death notices, that is a great resource.

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Limerick / Re: Marriage in Limerick Cathedral 1827
« on: Tuesday 16 January 24 00:02 GMT (UK)  »
Hi jc26red,  Thankyou for the information you have provided on the Maunsell family, your
                   time and expertise is greatly appreciated. 

Regards,
Jen.

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Limerick / Re: Marriage in Limerick Cathedral 1827
« on: Monday 15 January 24 12:24 GMT (UK)  »
After some more searching online I believe I used the IGI for the the parish registers.  The IGI
has pre 1845  Church of Ireland parish registers for Limerick City.  The only issue now is they
may not still be available online.

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Limerick / Re: Marriage in Limerick Cathedral 1827
« on: Monday 15 January 24 11:16 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks athacliath, the details on the Rev. Rose are very helpful and with your help I now feel
confident that the marriage was at St. Mary, Limerick.

It is my own fault that I did not record the details of the online registers.  I do recall that I
scrolled through countless pages of church records for Limerick Co. and the St. Mary records
were tacked onto the end.  When I didn't find the marriage record at St. Mary I assumed that
I was mistaken about the Cathedral being St. Mary.  It is a lesson learned.

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Limerick / Re: Marriage in Limerick Cathedral 1827
« on: Monday 15 January 24 11:08 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Sinann,  I'm sure you are correct, I have come across Charlotte in a Jones family
                        settlement deed, the marriage date is helpful.

                        Thanks also for the COI  info.  I am having difficulty linking Mary Monsell/Maunsell
                        with a specific family, this newspaper item is the only reference I have for the
                        wife of William Jones.  There is a George Maunsell who was customs collector
                        for Limerick married to Frances Fitzgerald Magrath who could be her parents but
                        Mary is not recorded in any relevant records as their daughter.  The only clues
                        that this could be her family are the names given to Mary and William's children,
                        Richard, George and Frances Maria, all Maunsell family names connected to George
                        Maunsell, collector.

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Limerick / Re: Marriage in Limerick Cathedral 1827
« on: Monday 15 January 24 10:00 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks athacliath, I'm not a subscriber to FindMyPast, I located the news item at my local library.
 I may have found the church records via FamilySearch but that does not appear to be an
 option now.

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Limerick / Marriage in Limerick Cathedral 1827
« on: Monday 15 January 24 07:26 GMT (UK)  »
Hello all,   In June 2023 the following newspaper notice was added to the FindMyPast collection.
At that time I was able to access the marriage registers of St. Mary, Limerick online but could not
locate this marriage and now wonder whether 'The Cathedral' refers to St. Mary or perhaps
St. John?  The notice was published in the Limerick Chronicle on 22nd. December, 1827.
The religion of the groom was Church of Ireland.

I have tried again to access the marriage registers of both churches without success.  Can anyone
help me to locate these online again?  Any help to locate this marriage would be appreciated.
The surname variants are Maunsell, Maunsel, Mansell.

Regards,  Jen.


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