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Hi,
Sometime ago I found the transcript for these two events.

5 April 1763 Morgan JOHN = Mary REES, St Augustine-the-less, Bristol.

11 Dec 1763 Mary JOHN, father: Morgan JOHN, Mother: Mary. St Augustine-the-less, Bristol.

I would really love to know if there is a digital image somewhere, please. I've not been able to trace their origins but with the surname JOHN, I'm guessing it's Wales but would be pleased to know if the marriage or baptism alludes to where they were from. I've been researching my family tree for 20 years but haven't really delved into Welsh research yet. I have a few other ancestors with Welsh names in Gloucestershire and other counties in England. It would be wonderful to break down this one brick wall to start the ball rolling towards finding my Welsh roots.
TIA.
Aussie

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA newbie question
« on: Wednesday 17 January 18 05:12 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, I can't answer your questions. But 2-4 weeks seems an awfully long time. Have you uploaded your raw DNA data to other websites such as FTDNA, Gedmatch, MyHeritage? It's free to transfer from Ancestry to FTDNA, there is an unlocking fee if you want to use their chromosome browser. MyHeritage now has a chromosome browser which is currently free, as are Gedmatch tools. There's also a great website called DNA Painter where you can paint and visualise your matches from Gedmatch, FTDNA, some of the other companies too but not Ancestry because Ancestry doesn't provide the segment data needed for painting the DNA matches.

Thanks. Also raised a query with Ancestry and their reply was ‘Your DNA matches are updated as they come available. Your profile is reindexed at a much slower rate. That is what you are seeing. The profile has not been reindexed to update that this person is a match. It is a nice feature, when it is current. Otherwise it is very misleading’ . They advise to wait 2-4 weeks for the indexing to be complete.

Does this make sense?

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One Name Studies: A to G / Re: BEARD family
« on: Wednesday 30 August 17 10:08 BST (UK)  »
Hi Alf,

How are you going with your research? Have you been doing all the MI transcriptions that are on the internet? I did a DNA test a few months ago. One of my cousins had her DNA tested too. It's amazing how many people we're related to! We're back a few generations now. Please send me a private message. I can't remember how you and I are related. It might be you who I sent a message to on Facebook too.
Kind regards,
Candy

G'day Candy

Not yet, still working on him

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Cheers. Ok, you typed 1739 in your first reply. Either way, it's still difficult to be sure which chap is my ancestor. Yes, John could be a sibling or a cousin etc. 

 
I took another look at the pages in the Shropshire Baptisms record set 1706-1754 and in the middle of page 50 it gives the year (handwritten) as 1737 and in the middle of page 51 it gives the year as 1738 (also handwritten). I originally assumed that as Thomas's birth followed the list from 1737 (and ended before the 1738 date) that he was born in 1737. I appear however to be wrong. Looking closer at all the dates, the records before the (handwritten) 1738 date shows entries from October 16th until March 22nd. This means that Thomas was in fact born in 1738. Confusing, I know.

I wonder if the death of John Lowe on October 23rd (just above Thomas's entry) was a sibling of Thomas?

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Hi Kevin,
Thanks so much. Ancestry has 8 Mar 1738, prob due to double date period.
I vaguely recall seeing a tree sometime ago that has the early death for the chap bapt 1725. Will check that when my hand has healed.

I was searching the Shropshire records for the Newall family from Cleobury Mortimer and I came across a Thomas Lowe who was born in Kinlet (just over 4 miles from Cleobury Mortimer). He was born to Edward and Ann Lowe and baptized on the 8th March 1739.
There was also another Thomas Low who was born in Bridgnorth (13 miles from Cleobury) to William and Mary in 1731
and
another Thomas Low born to Thomas and Mary in 1723 at Highley which is about 7 miles from Cleobury Mortimer.

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Shropshire Lookup Requests / Re: Tom Owen Oswestry
« on: Tuesday 27 December 16 07:00 GMT (UK)  »
I think that Suz might be correct. Ages on the census aren't 100% accurate. Information I've found about Thomas, he was born 1861 Wales died 1931 Oxfordshire. Some of that was on Wiki and some on englandfootballonline(dot)com
I've just viewed a family tree which has both Wilfred and Tom. I've also viewed the 1911 census, both are on that census. That Tom Owen was born 31 May 1862 at Nantwich, Cheshire, not Wales. His wife was born at Oswestry, as was Wilfred and the next child, Mary. Seems he played for Wales but wasn't a native of Wales.

There was also a Thomas Owen born at Oswestry. And a Thomas Owen born at Bickerton around the same time.
Here's Wilfred's info on the cwgc website.

http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/336417/OWEN,%20WILFRED%20EDWARD%20SALTER

Any information from family trees could be wrong. So I suggest you check and confirm details.
Cheers,
Em

PS None of the family trees state that the father of Wilfred was a footballer. Tom only played for Wales once, hence the difficulty finding info. There were 3 lads by the same name and similar age from the Pwllheli area. No one has these lads on their family tree on Ancestry. I've checked a few census images for these lads. One was a labourer. Another a Setts maker setts quarryman. So any of them have potential.

Perhaps it might be worth contacting the archives yourself. They're familiar with their own system and may be able ascertain the answer to your question within 10 minutes of searching.
Cheers,
Em

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Thanks so much for your reply, Keyboard.
Market Drayton is a bit far away, although not impossible. Not documentation to prove that possibility at this stage.
Yes, Ditton Priors is closer. Yes, I am aware of spelling variations.
That was circa 1730 in my initial post, not c for christening. He was married after Hardwicke's marriage act was introduced so he/they had to be over 21 years of age. There's nothing on the image stating that he was a minor. So he was born sometime before 1739. It doesn't state their marital status either, so no knowing if he was a widower and several years older than his bride. Going by his burial occurring 16 years after the marriage he could well have been an older man.
Thanks again.

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Hi,

I've searched on FindMyPast and Ancestry several times for the baptism of my 5x Great grandfather Thomas Low(e) c.1730. He may have been born at Cleobury Mortimer, that's where he was married and buried. He named his first son Thomas so his father may have been Thomas too. There was a Thomas and Ann at Cleobury Mortimer who may well be his parents but I just can't find the proof of his baptism, nor of Thomas and Ann's marriage. I can't find a Will that has this family either. There's a lot of Thomas Low(e) chaps from Shropshire, not sure which one is mine.

I have the digital images for my ancestor -
Thomas Low married 21.4.1760 Cleobury Mortimer
Thomas Lowe burried 17.12.1776 Cleobury Mortimer - Inn holder and Butcher.
I know both digital images are his events because his wife's burial in 1780 states 'Relict of Thomas Lowe Inn holder and Butcher.' Of course, her name is on the marriage record so I couldn't ask for a more perfect match.

I have wondered if there may be a book about Inn holders etc of Cleobury Mortimer. I know there was a family at Highley who owned the mill. Also, I've googled several times but can't get my Thomas's baptism sorted.  :(

Sadly, I won't be back in the UK for a few more years.

Thanks in advance.  :)
Em

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Surrey / Re: Query about a 1755 Will document
« on: Friday 16 December 16 08:17 GMT (UK)  »
Cheers Wiggy. So far we can't make any connection to the other beneficiary but I hope we will eventually. He was in business with one of the two witnesses to the Will and that witness became a very wealth man who owned some property. I'm just looking on at the catalogues on the 'Exploring Surrey's Past' website. Nothing definite about the possible ancestor but there's a few references to the witness which may be worth investigating further.


We have had a very similar problem with names in wills.

 The way we're able to solve it was looking for other beneficiaries who were known to be part of the same family . . Other siblings or in-laws for example.

Hope this might help.

Wiggy.

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