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Scotland / Re: Where is High Church?
« on: Yesterday at 23:02 »
For the benefit of the neighbours let's hope that the walls are solid enough to keep the concerts inside the buildings.  :)

Scotland / Re: Where is High Church?
« on: Yesterday at 22:40 »
Thank you for enlightening me further.

We do seem to have rather an oversupply of religious buildings, one way and another, in Scotland. With a population of only five million or so, no wonder so many churches have been demoted or unfrocked or disestablished.

Scotland / Re: Where is High Church?
« on: Monday 18 September 17 19:47 BST (UK)  »
Glasgow Cathedral is the High Church & unlike St Giles is a real cathedral!  ;D

How do you make that out? It is Church of Scotland and therefore it is not the seat of a bishop. Same applies to Brechin Cathedral, St Magnus Cathedral, Dunblane Cathedral, St Machar Cathedral, Dunkeld Cathedral and probably others - they were all the seats of bishops before the Reformation, all taken over by the (Presbyterian) Church of Scotland and therefore all no longer have bishops. A building can't be a 'real' cathedral without a bishop. Glasgow Cathedral (aka St Mungo's or St Kentigern's) is in exactly the same situation as St Giles and the rest of them - a pre-Reformation building which was the seat of a (Roman Catholic) bishop, and is now used by the Church of Scotland.

There is a post-Reformation Roman Catholic cathedral in Glasgow, and there is a post-Reformation Roman Catholic cathedral in Edinburgh, and there are also Episcopal cathedrals in both cities. All of those are 'real' cathedrals because they are the seats of bishops.

Glasgow Cathedral's unique claim to fame is that it, unlike St Giles, survived the Reformation undamaged.

Scotland / Re: Finding previous Wills
« on: Monday 18 September 17 19:34 BST (UK)  »
His last will and testament (TT at Edinburgh Commissary Court 1805) makes reference to a previous last will and testament lodged on 16 April 1787 at Prerogative Court of Canterbury.
Are you sure it doesn't say something like ".... dated 16 April 1787 and lodged at ...."

Why would his will be lodged there? Was it customary for mariners to have their wills lodged there?
It would be customary for it to be lodged there after it had been granted confirmation in Scotland if he owned property in England and Wales.

I have tried searching the National Archives around that date (1787), but when I purchased it, it was the later will of 1805.
A 'Last will and testament' cannot be processed by the legal system until after the death of the testator, so if he died in 1803 his will cannot possibly have gone through the courts in 1787. In any case every new will cancels all previous ones.

Scotland / Re: Finding previous Wills
« on: Monday 18 September 17 09:40 BST (UK)  »
I don't understand why someone who died in 1803 could have had a will recorded in 1787. Is it possible that it is the same will, dated in 1787 before he died, and confirmed in 1803 after he died? Then if the English probate lists the date of the will and the Scottish confirmation record lists the date of confirmation, you would get two apparently conflicting dates.

Banffshire / Re: Banff - Birth
« on: Monday 18 September 17 08:40 BST (UK)  »
I have a family member who lived in Northumberland in 1901 and the census states that he was born in Baff, Scotland, which I take to be a spelling error and it is actually Banff, Scotland. 

My question is if someone says they were born in Banff, would this mean it was actually the town of Banff or could anyone tell me which other towns I could look at when seeking a birth, where in 1869 would be known as Banff (I mean neigbouring towns as I am not from the area).
It could mean the burgh (town) of Banff, or the parish of Banff, or elsewhere in the county of Banff. There is no way of telling what the enumerator thought he was writing down in 1901.

Scotland / Re: Where is High Church?
« on: Monday 18 September 17 08:33 BST (UK)  »
Hello jaybelnz,

I'm new to rootschat and I thought I was replying to the original poster. He/she asked the question regarding High Church.  I was just saying that my ancestors lived in that area in 1851. Thank you for your response though.  My 2nd great grandparents were married at St. Cuthberts  :)

Lots of potential for confusion. See my previous reply on Page 1 of this thread.

There was a registration district in Glasgow named 'High Church'.

The pre-Reformation St Giles Cathedral in Edinburgh is often referred to as the 'High Kirk' because there are no bishops in the Church of Scotland post-Reformation so it is not technically a cathedral now.

So the 'High Church' where your ancestors were in 1851 is not the same as the one the original poster asked about.

Scotland / Re: BMD for Scotland
« on: Sunday 17 September 17 19:06 BST (UK)  »

As others have said, you won't be able to access this birth online because it is less than 100 years ago.

Lanarkshire / Re: Has anybody heard of "Thankerton House"?! COMPLETED -- thank you!
« on: Friday 15 September 17 09:04 BST (UK)  »

In the menu panel on the left there is a blue dot. Slide it backwards and forwards to switch between the 1864 map and the satellite view

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