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Stirlingshire / Re: Parkburn House Kilsyth
« on: Today at 17:30 »
Welcome to RootsChat, Riddell.

According to the deaths index at www.scotlandspeople,gov.uk there is a death of a Mary Ann Taggart or Miller in Kilsyth in 1943. So she was born about 1870.

The index to the 1911 census in Kilsyth lists what looks like two Millar households consisting of Alex, 40; Elizabeth B, 36;  Mary, 35; John, 32;  Kathleen, 15; Minnie, 13; Mary L S, 3; Elizabeth A, 1; and Jenny, 0.

There are births of Mary Livingston Millar and Elizabeth Allan Millar in 1908 and 1909, mother's maiden surname Lockhart; and Jennie Millar, mother's maiden name Taggart, was born in Kilsyth in 1910. John Millar married Elizabeth Bryde Lockhart in Kilsyth in 1907.

However I am not seeing a marriage of Mary Taggart to Alexander Mill*r in the a marriages index at www.irishgenealogy.ie and I can't see Kathleen in the 1901 census in Ireland.

You need to go to www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk and invest in a few credits.

Use some of them to look at the birth certificate of Jennie Millar. This will tell you the date and place of her (and therefore Kathleen's) parents' marriage.

Use some more to look at Mary Taggart or Miller's death certificate. This will tell you if Alexander had or had not died before her, which will help to find his death, and it should tell you the full names of Mary's parents including her mother's maiden surname. Actually he is probably the Alexander Miller, mother's maiden surname Wilson, who died in Kilsyth in 1921 aged 62. His death certificate will tell you the full names of both his parents.

And you could also take a look at the original of the 1911 census, which might tell you where in Ireland they were all born.

Unrelated question - might the initials SBTB mean anything to you? A simple yes or no will suffice until you have made enough posts to use the Personal Message system.

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Have you seen the item on Rev John G in Fasti Ecclesiae Scoticanae?

https://www.ecclegen.com/general-index-g/#Gellie,%20Andrew - scroll down to arrive at clickable links.

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Wigtownshire / Re: McMeckan / McClymont
« on: Friday 19 April 24 23:08 BST (UK)  »
As they were living in Scotland after 1855, and assuming that they died in Scotland, their death certificates should tell you the full names of their parents including their mothers' maiden surnames, assuming that the informant(s) knew that information.

See www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk - a small fee is payable to view the original documents.



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Orkney / Re: Thomson's & Tulloch's
« on: Thursday 18 April 24 21:40 BST (UK)  »
No.

You need to look at one of the birth certificates to see what they tell you. They will tell you the name of the twins' mother. The father of an illegitimate child can only be recorded on the birth certificate if he accompanies the mother when she goes to register the birth, and signs the certificate along with her. However I don't think he did in this case because the twins' births are indexed only under Thomson, and if he had co-signed the certificate they would also be indexed under his surname.

It is possible, if Jemima knew who her father was, that she might have named him when she got married. Have you got her marriage certificates?

And don't waste your time looking in Ancestry. Scotland's People is the primary source of this information, and if it isn't there it isn't going to be on Ancestry either, because Ancestry just transcribes or indexes primary sources. See https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=714261.0

BTW you need to ask a Moderator to move your part of this thread out of Orkney and into Aberdeenshire.

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Orkney / Re: Thomson's & Tulloch's
« on: Wednesday 17 April 24 18:02 BST (UK)  »
Welcome to RootsChat :)

i think we might need a little more evidence to allow us to home in on your twins. Are you saying that your great-grandmother had twins Jemima and Ina in 1901 surnamed Hart; that Jemima was adopted by someone called Thomson, and Ina died in 1963? Because I can't find anything to match that.

However in 1901 twins named Jemima Innes Thomson and Williamina Down Thomson were born in the district of Pitsligo in Aberdeenshire. The mother's maiden surname is omitted from the index, which usually implies that the birth was illegitimate.

There is a death of Jemima Innes Thomson or Ritchie or Collett in Pitsligo in 1963, so it was Jemima, not Ina, who died in 1963.

The original documents can be viewed at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk for a modest fee. Either of the birth certificates will tell you the full name of the twins' mother and where they were born. This may allow you to find their mother in the 1901 and earlier census.




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Kincardineshire / Re: Arbuthnott, Which county please?
« on: Wednesday 17 April 24 07:40 BST (UK)  »
They'll be in the parish kirkyard, but if there's no gravestone there may not be any other records.

Unusually, there are some records of burials in the Arbuthnott parish register, but there don't seem to be any in the 1800s.

You could have a look at the parish accounts in the records of Arbuthnott Kirk Session and see if there are any payments for the mortcloth. This was a large cloth that was rented out for a fee and draped over the coffin during the funeral service.


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Midlothian / Re: James Steedman 1823-1912
« on: Tuesday 16 April 24 10:51 BST (UK)  »
I spent a long time looking at this today and I am still puzzled.🤔
I was hoping the name GEMMEL might provide some clues.
Likewise, but I have yet to find anything helpful.

There is a baptism of a Mary Whyte to Thomas W and Agnes Gemmill in Paisley in 1803, and no matching death after 1855, so it's possible. However the three grandsons don't include a Thomas.

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Midlothian / Re: James Steedman 1823-1912
« on: Tuesday 16 April 24 10:10 BST (UK)  »
ADDED - Also, the 1851 census I posted above is NOT correct.

Does that mean that the grandson of Peter S and Jean Coalier comes back into consideration?

- He's the right sort of age - 21 in 1851, so born 1829/1830
- He was born in the city (St Cuthbert's)

- Peter S and Jean Coalier had a son Alexander Ritchie Studman baptised in 1803.

Alexander Steedman, son of Peter S and Jean Collier, died in South Leith in 1878, aged 73. He married Isabella Dougall in 1841. Are the grandchildren living with Peter S and Jean C in 1841 his children by a previous marriage to Mary White?



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Lanarkshire / Re: Headstone pictures CAMBUSNETHAN CHURCHYARD WISHAW
« on: Tuesday 16 April 24 09:33 BST (UK)  »
Just for the record, the name Isabella originates from the Spanish/Portuguese version of Elizabeth, so it is basically the same name. See https://www.whatsinaname.net/female-names/Isabel.html

I have, very occasionally, come across a person who has been referred to by both names.

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