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Other Countries / Russia, unknown birthplace Eliasburg
« on: Wednesday 05 October 16 14:00 BST (UK)  »
My greatgrandfather was born in Eliasburg, South Russia, back in 1872. Had no success in finding the exact loaction of this place. Did searches in many databases and found birth records mentioning this place but location is still unknown.

Does this place sound familiar to somebody?

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Europe / Re: Grunewald / Greenwald From Kronental, Crimea, Ukrain
« on: Sunday 02 October 16 20:28 BST (UK)  »
Hello,
have You tried the following link ?
http://www.odessa3.org/search.html
with Data Category: Village Compilations
If You search with Grunewald a Wendelin can be found:

Grunewald, Wendelin            23 Jun 1891 29 Apr 1891 Kronental   87 Grunewald, Johann        Striv ?, Ekaterina     Grunewald, Wendelin         Schneider, Cecilia

First date is baptism, second is birth date. Keeping the same given names across families was and is very common.

Your query is interesting for me since Grunewald (or Grunenwald etc.) is on my list of ancestors, too. A Franz Herbst (* Feb 1840) was married to Johanna (or Joanni) Grunewald. Two of their daughters play a role to me. Elisabeth born 1873 in Kronental is my greatgrandmother. She first married a ? Kratchmer and as a widow my greatgrandfather. Descendents from both families, Herbst and Kratchmer emigrated to Canada in 1910. No wonder, that Grunewalds did also follow.

Have You been successful to find more details?

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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: Reward Sask Census for the Kratchmer family look up please
« on: Friday 30 September 16 00:36 BST (UK)  »
I managed to get a copy of the book "Westside Echoes" which contains a bunch of info (beside others) about the Kratchmer family. There is written that Peter Krat(s)chmer and his wife Catherine (Herbst) came to Canada in 1910. They at that time had 4 children already: Joseph (* 1901), Mary (Sr. Angeline), Madeline (Sr. Catherine, * 1908) and Simon. Nick and Laura (* 1912, twins), Frank (* ?), Peter (* ?) and George John (* 1920) were born in Canada.
When Sr. Catherine was still alive she didn't have an exact rememberance of date and place of entry into Canada.
My greatgrandmother Elisabeth Herbst was a sister to Catherine Herbst. Their parents were Franz (or Frank) Herbst and Johanna Gruenewald. They lived in Kronental, Crimea.
My ggm and also Catherine married boys from the Kratschmer family. Elisabeth, with the brother of Peter (possibly Michael) had two children when he passed away. As a widow she married my ggf Peter Wolf.
So I would be interested if there are documents or any propagated information available to find out a) from where in Austria the Kratschmers first came to Russia and b) where the Kratschmers lived in South Russia.
Who is the father of Peter Kratchmer that You mentiones? The book tells about a Peter born in 1933 being son of Joe Kratchmer.
Would be better if we could get into direct contact due to the amount of information to be exchanged but I don't know if we can send personal mail using rootschat facilities.
Greatings from Germany
Isegrim
 

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Europe / Re: Kratchmer Family in the 1800 to the 1900
« on: Sunday 07 April 13 19:28 BST (UK)  »
I'm looking into the same family history. No luck up to now to find any immigration data for Kratschmer. As a German I can tell that there are a couple of spellings for that name. To show some:
Kretschmer, Ketzschmer, Kretschmar, Kratschmer (with German Umlaut a, with two dots on top of that character), etc. Very likely that the name was changed on entry to Canada.
My connection to Kratschmer is that my Great Grandmother was Elisabeth Herbst, born May 7, 1873, she married a Kratschmer (Frank?) and as a widow married my Great Grandfather. Looks like Elisabeth and Katharina were sisters and married into the same family.
I was able to trace the Herbst root back to Kronental, Crimea.
It is correct that Odessa is not on the same peninsula but the distance is not too far.

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