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Anglesey / Re: THOMAS 1885 from Llangefni, Anglesey - No trace of birth or parents
« on: Monday 16 January 23 11:01 GMT (UK)  »
Wow dragonT, this is amazing - thank you so much! Wonderful info!

I did find a very convincing Ann Owen from Heneglwys last night. I think the death date is the same as you mentioned from memory. I was thrown because she was buried under her maiden name but have since learned that was the way things were done. It's only her marriage record that is being elusive now.

I noticed that you're also looking for the Thomas surname from Anglesey. Do you think they're the same ones?

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Anglesey / Re: THOMAS 1885 from Llangefni, Anglesey - No trace of birth or parents
« on: Sunday 15 January 23 21:44 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for that info, I'll have a look. Interesting! Good point about the links.

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London and Middlesex / Re: Brick wall - Daltrey in London
« on: Sunday 15 January 23 21:41 GMT (UK)  »
Sorry Spiller and Daltrey, I've just come back to this and have discovered your replies! How interesting - I'll have a look at all the leads and will report back. Thank you both!

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Anglesey / THOMAS 1885 from Llangefni, Anglesey - No trace of birth or parents
« on: Sunday 15 January 23 21:22 GMT (UK)  »
Hello  :) If anyone can please give me any pointers with this, I'd be so grateful! I've gone round in circles again and again.

My great-grandfather was Owen Hugh THOMAS from Llangefni.

I've found a potential birth record for 1885 but it doesn't give me any other info and I can't find a baptism record for him. https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8912&h=54900919&tid=&pid=&queryId=aafa8a3cf4242b53130eb36a6e4124d4&usePUB=true&_phsrc=9f51796628&_phstart=successSource&_gl=1*imzkjm*_ga*NDU1NDE5NDQ4LjE2NjY3MjM3NDU.*_ga_4QT8FMEX30*MTY3Mzc4NTk5OC4xNS4xLjE2NzM4MTY5OTQuMS4wLjA.

The next record I can find for him is the 1891 census. https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/988863:6897?ssrc=pt&tid=177541096&pid=422307935895 Not sure if the links will work?

Details below:

Ellen Thomas (Head) 59 Widow. b. Pwllheli
John H Thomas (Son) 28 Widower. Postman/Letter carrier. b. Llangefni
==> Owen Hugh Thomas (Nephew) 6 b. Llangefni

Confusingly though, Owen's marriage certificate in 1910 lists his father as being John Thomas, a postman.

By the 1901 census, Owen (aged 16) is living with Richard Thomas in West Derby (Liverpool) who is listed as being his brother. Richard appears to be one of Ellen's sons.

From looking at other census records, it looks like there were a great many branches of the Thomas family, with many of them all living around Church Street in Llangefni. The fact that Ellen was born in Pwllheli is helpful in pinpointing her in census records. However, I just can't tie Owen to a definite father or find any trace of his mother. I've looked for marriage records for John Thomas but drawn blanks.

I asked a relative who was Owen's granddaughter and she said he told her that his mother died when he was young, and his father remarried. He didn't get on with his stepmother so lived away from them. I'd assumed it referred to him living with his aunt aged 6 but I'm wondering if Owen was actually the grandson (not nephew) of Ellen and if he was referring instead to moving to Liverpool with his "brother".

I wondered if Owen is either John's son and Ellen's grandson, or if he's an illegitimate child of one of Ellen's daughters. I haven't looked at their ages/circumstances around the time of his birth yet.

My hunch is John as his father but I just can't any trace of baptisms, marriages (1st to Owen's mother, or 2nd to the step mother) or any death record for Owen's unknown mother.

Any help would be gratefully received  ??? :)


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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Marriage license deciphering help please
« on: Tuesday 06 September 16 00:17 BST (UK)  »
Fascinating. I'm finding so much out on this forum. Thank you :-)

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Occupation Interests / Re: What is a foreign warden?
« on: Monday 05 September 16 23:37 BST (UK)  »
Very late 1700s and early 1800s. Very interesting groom - thank you. That makes sense :-)

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Occupation Interests / What is a foreign warden?
« on: Monday 05 September 16 23:22 BST (UK)  »
Two of my ancestors were Foreign Wardens in the Worshipful Company of Fan Makers. Does anyone know please - what is/was a foreign warden? Does it imply that they were themselves foreign? I'm trying to find my Huguenot links so I'm hoping it might be helpful :) Thanks.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Marriage license deciphering help please
« on: Monday 05 September 16 23:06 BST (UK)  »
That's wonderful - thank you both :-) So, is it basically saying they had to have the banns read out in the churches of St Bride, St Bennett Pauls Wharfe and St Martins Ludgate?

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Marriage license deciphering help please
« on: Monday 05 September 16 00:24 BST (UK)  »
Can anyone decipher this please? Particularly the last couple of lines. Thanks for looking :-)

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