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The Common Room / Re: HS2 and Cemeteries
« on: Yesterday at 21:37 »
At the bottom of our street was an extremely busy LNER branch line .  A  group of us local children stood with our notebooks and pencils collecting engine numbers as the trains whistled passed us, whether they were long goods trains from the dockyards or passenger trains from the town centre.

When I researched my maternal great grandfather,  I found that there was a railway line in the factory yard where he worked and, in fact, many other companies such as timber companies had lines that led directly onto the docks.

Looking at an old image of the LNER railway lines in relation with other lines,  it can be seen that they more or less mimic the cog wheels of an old pocket watch with each cog/line interacting with other cogs/lines.   When Beeching cut off the "feeder" lines many main railway lines ran at a loss.


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The Common Room / Re: HS2 and Cemeteries
« on: Yesterday at 18:46 »
In case anyone is wondering:-

"Heathrow Airport Holdings Limited is in turn owned by FGP Topco Limited, a consortium owned and led by the infrastructure specialist Ferrovial S.A. (25.00%), Qatar Investment Authority (20.00%), Caisse de Dépôt et placement du Québec (CDPQ) (12.62%), GIC (11.20%), Australian Retirement Trust (11.18%), China Investment "

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The Common Room / Re: HS2 and Cemeteries
« on: Sunday 14 April 24 20:00 BST (UK)  »
Do we actually own anything these days?     I thought the French were major shareholders in most things British.

I remember  the "Beeching Cuts" to the railways, due to the maintenance being 8 men per mile as opposed to one man per mile to maintain the road network.

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The Stay Safe Board / Re: Diary summary week ending 14th April 2024
« on: Saturday 13 April 24 02:42 BST (UK)  »


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The Stay Safe Board / Re: Diary summary week ending 14th April 2024
« on: Saturday 13 April 24 02:41 BST (UK)  »
It would be a field mouse most likely,you almost never get one house mouse.


I know and as a rule I've heard that if you have mice you do not have rats and vice versa. 

Years ago my pinking shears (scissors) went missing. I looked everywhere and eventually  Mr Nobody confessed that they'd had them whilst sitting on the sofa. I upended the sofa and whilst doing so heard the chink of money.  To get at the scissors and the cash I had to cut the sacking from the underside of the sofa.  The sight that met my eyes meant I did not replace the sacking, but I did get rid of the mouse's nest and as we had an "outdoor" cat I put her in the sitting room overnight.  The next day there were quite a lot of little dead bodies in the room.

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The Stay Safe Board / Re: Diary summary week ending 14th April 2024
« on: Friday 12 April 24 22:28 BST (UK)  »
My daughter visited today and insisted on finishing vacuuming the room for me.   I used to move furniture about many years ago to make sure there wasn't a speck of dust and dirt anywhere.   I have a very heavy early 20th century sideboard which she insisted on shifting and to her horror she discovered a dead mouse behind it    She didn't move the piano, so I might have a surprise when that's moved lol

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With regard to incorrect facts.  We have to remember that many people couldn't read and write, or maybe they could write their own name.  My grandfather born in the 1880s was taught to write and read by my grandmother.

I have two people in the family tree who were two years older than stated by their parents on census forms.  Presumably this was in an effort to stop gossip and maybe to stop their offspring from being a local outcast.

In the days when teenagers had to move great distances to find work, they give incorrect information on official documents.  I have the oldest child in a family thinking they were born in the same place as their younger siblings and it's only when they had to produce documentation at their wedding that they saw their correct birth place. 

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The Common Room / Re: What does this mean?
« on: Tuesday 09 April 24 19:01 BST (UK)  »
I think I might be related to Pinocchio :-)

Following the clues I found the family story quite fascinating - and, as usual  it's not what you know, but who you know :-

Origin and meaning of surname "MOLYNEUX"
Origin. derived from the French Moulin
(meaning "mill of the waters")
Region of origin. France

Apparently his family had been part of the (very rich and powerful)  English community on mainland Europe:-

Molyneux, Daniel (1568–1632), herald, was born in Bruges, Flanders, second son of Thomas Molyneux (qv) of Calais and his wife Katherine, daughter of Ludowick Slobert, burgomaster of Bruges. His father had been a member of the English community at Calais and had settled in Bruges after Calais fell to France in 1558.

A Burgomaster was chief magistrate or executive of a city or town.

Daniel Molyneux was born in 1568, in Brugge, West Flanders, Belgium, his father, Thomas Molyneux, was 37 and his mother, Katherine De Bruges, was 32. He married Jane Usher in 1597, in Dublin, County Dublin, Ireland. They were the parents of at least 5 sons and 5 daughters. He died in 1632, in Newry, County Down, Ireland, at the age of 64.
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https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/KLY7-4RB/daniel-molyneux-1568-1632
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There's a webpage re the powerful Usher family of Britain:-

http://www.the-house-of-usher.co.uk/history.htm
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From the mid 1500s England had Henry VIII who turned against the Roman Catholic Church because they wouldn't allow him to divorce and marry who he wanted so he set up his own Church of England.  Northern Ireland was part of the United Kingdom but Southern Ireland (Eire) was a Catholic country, which was reflected in their laws.

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The surname appears to mean a place as shown on this webpage:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_(surname)#:~:text=Wind%20is%20a%20topographical%20surname,pathway%2C%20alleyway%2C%20or%20road.

Unfortunately you have the same problem as me with one of my lines, where the Vicar was so lazy he couldn't even be bothered to write full words

I should think the parents of the baby were married.  When a mother of a baby was not married her name would be recorded against the name of the baptised baby.  I have a Catholic document where the priest made a note in the margin of a baby he had baptised which was "The couple have promised to marry within the year"..  The mother was a young teenage girl and presumably her parents had forbidden the marriage.

The first baby would probably be born with the help of the maternal grandmother, hence you might find the first baby born in a different town/village or even different county.  I have one pregnant bride who travelled from London up to Yorkshire for the birth of her first baby.

The English and the Scots had a similar naming pattern, which could mean that the baby's maternal grandmother was named Margaret and the baby's paternal grandfather was named Thomas Wind.

 1st son named after paternal grandfather (patGF)
2nd son named after maternal grandfather (matGF)
3rd son named after father (F)
4th son named after father’s eldest brother (patB)
5th son named after mother’s eldest brother (matB)

1st daughter named after maternal grandmother (matGM)
2nd daughter named after paternal grandmother (patGM)
3rd daughter named after mother (M)
4th daughter named after mother’s eldest sister (matS)
5th daughter named after father’s eldest sister (patS)

My paternal grandfather didn't have a family given name, he carried the full name of a family friend who couldn't have any children.

I have one family story of one spinster working as a maid who hid her baby in a drawer.  I found that mother working as a maid with three other spinsters in a large household, but no baby; presumably that was the household where the baby was hidden in a drawer..  The baby's father had been a sailor who perished at sea before the baby was born.

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