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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Thomas GREENWOOD Halifax?
« on: Friday 18 February 22 20:44 GMT (UK)  »
Catching Up, it is early morning here and the grandkids are still asleep.
Dobfarm, Thomas is listed as a miner on his wedding cert and signs his name, quite literate, he writes very detailed reports on the mine. His wife Elizabeth Hawkins is Illiterate and her father? George who was a witness also illiterate.

Heywood. Yes that Sarah Windle is correct, I haven't tracked much of her or her family yet. How did you see the information that she already had children with a different surname? I think I will have no trouble tracking down the nephew John Greenwood, I am reasonably good at Victorian records and Victorian geography, awful at UK.

Neale, I agree with you sometimes you have to test some strange assumptions just to eliminate them, or even prove them. I'm not ruling anything out at all until I have proof. Miners were very mobile people, they tended to go where the rushes were happening so the wife and child might have vanished miles from where most of the action happened. I have checked the cemeteries that are around Scarsdale with no luck but they could be a long way away.
Yes I agree about that passenger on "Martin Luther" his age is a bit off.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Thomas GREENWOOD Halifax?
« on: Friday 18 February 22 05:52 GMT (UK)  »
Neale that Henry is in a grave with three others, but none died at the same time as him, so probably doubtful. Also burial was on 1 Oct 1859,
Thomas stated that he was widowed  November 1855 on his wedding cert.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Thomas GREENWOOD Halifax?
« on: Friday 18 February 22 05:26 GMT (UK)  »
Sorry everyone, a house full of grandkids put things on hold.

Wivenhoe, Yes that's the bloke, Thomas is my G G grandfather, the Jubilee mine was very wealthy, they hit a lean patch and sold it to some investors who poured money into it and took a fortune out of it. Many of the very wealthy families in Melbourne owe their wealth to that mine.
Marriage cert in 1859 Thomas is a miner

Thomas Greenwood was a member of the Church Of Scotland, Sarah was a member of the Church of England, they were married in Thomas' private residence at Faulkners Hill Woady Yalloak (not far from Illabarook)
Wtnesses are George Hawkins X, William Faulkner (signed) minister John Gow.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Thomas GREENWOOD Halifax?
« on: Friday 18 February 22 01:01 GMT (UK)  »
Wivenhoe, The other information on the 1859 Victoria certificate is His wife's details Elizabeth Hawkins Spinster, Manningford Wiltshire age 22, (where married Faulkiners Hill) father George Hawkins labourer, mother Jane Macklin. signed by Thomas (literate) Elizabeth X (illiterate)

Thanks Heywood and Neale I will check them out.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Thomas GREENWOOD Halifax?
« on: Friday 18 February 22 00:07 GMT (UK)  »
I checked the Victoria pioneer index and nothing there either in the time frame jumps out.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Thomas GREENWOOD Halifax?
« on: Thursday 17 February 22 23:55 GMT (UK)  »
No Greenwood deaths at sea registered on either of those ships in the time frame 1850 to 1859.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Thomas GREENWOOD Halifax?
« on: Thursday 17 February 22 23:43 GMT (UK)  »
I found two of them neither appears correct though.
Thomas Greenwood 22, with wife Sarah 18 from Cumberland Ag labourer on board James brown Jan 1853 assisted.
Thomas Greenwood, 18, butcher, unassisted Aug 1853 on Albinus.

I will see what I can find about the first one.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Thomas GREENWOOD Halifax?
« on: Thursday 17 February 22 23:25 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Neale.
Sorry I cant find him at all in assisted or unassisted between 1855 and 1859.
Oh, there's a thought, I presumed he came out after his wife died, I wonder if she died in transit or even in Australia?

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Thomas GREENWOOD Halifax?
« on: Thursday 17 February 22 22:43 GMT (UK)  »
I thought I had this person sorted out and was just filling in gaps in my records, so ordered his marriage certificate from the Victoria Australia BDM.
Thomas GREENWOOD, Age 31, widower since November 1855, with one dead child, from Halifax Yorkshire, Father James GREENWOOD, manufacturer. mother Sarah WINDELL. Married Elizabeth Hawkins on 29 Nov 1859 in Victoria Australia.

I have/ his birth as 27 Aug 1828 in Stanfield apparently correct mother and father except this bloke is a weaver, various records seem to confirm this, until I found when rechecking the records the same family and Thomas turn up in the 1861 census. This correct in every way family is incorrect as he was busy having children and discovering gold mines in Victoria in 1861

I am looking for details of Thomas' first marriage that ended in Nov 1855. My thinking possibly wife and child died in child birth. From that I hope to be able to track down his correct birth/baptism.
Thanks for any help, I am from Australia and struggle with UK records.

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