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Hi again, and yes,  Monkwearmouth where, the birth was registered  is what William Common gives as his birthplace on later census.
The Muirhead connection is looking more promising.  William Muirhead seems to disappear after the 1871 census, and William Common appears on the 1881, married and a glass worker.
I am interested to see that Robert Muirhead and Mary Ann also appear to be living apart - though still shown as married.
I am searching for more clues, and sifting through records.
I dont know whether there is anything more I can discover.
I am also looking fo a William Atkinson, Boilersmith (as given on William Commons marriage cert).

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So, we make a little progress!
The William Atkinson birth certificate pdf arrived today by email.
I will see how to attach a copy, but it does show that he was registered William Atkinson, with the father named as William Atkinson and mother Mary Ann Commons.
Though it is noted as Maiden name of mother, it seems that the birth would only be listed under both parents names , if they werent married as explained earlier by AntonyMMM

"My guess would be that this is an early example of a registration where unmarried parents are both named.

In the "old" printed indexes, that sort of entry is indexed twice, under each parent's surname."

At first glance I cannot find a marriage for William Atkinson and Mary Ann Commons.
That leaves the possibilty that they didnt marry, and Mary Ann did in fact later marry Robert Muirhead. This would explain the glassmaker connection suggested by Jonw65.

Yet, if so, he was known as William Muirhead until his marriage when he reverts to William Common, and shows his father as William Common "Boilersmith"

If anyone would like to join me exploring these options I would welcome any input.
Thanks again,
Eileen



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Yes Eileen I can merge your two accounts.
Thank you Sarah for merging my accounts and posts.
And thank you to all who have given me advice to help me uncover William’s origins.
I have ordered a birth certificate for William Atkinson, and will keep digging for information about the William Muirhead suggestion, with thanks also to jonw65 and kay99 for their help in my earlier enquiry.
Regarding this post, I have emailed GRO with a copy of the relevant page from the civil registration index to see whether they can shed any light on the matter.
Much appreciate the helpful spirit here.
Eileen

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Hi again,
I did have an earlier account which I was unable to access or restore as I am no longer able to access that email address. If there is a way to combine the accounts I am happy to do so.
To whom should I apply, please?
I have explored several Henzell records wondering perhaps a Henzell - Common marriage  connection  but so far no success.
Thank you,
Eileen

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Thank you, its certainly a curly one. From all of your helpful hints, I have sent off a copy of the index to the GRO for advice. I had previously reported the omission to them, but was told their records were correct and no amendment necessary.
 I will also order the Atkinson birth certificate too.
The surname shown in all census from 1881 to 1911 is William Common, giving his age estimated to 1853, and his birth shown as Monkwearmouth or Sunderland County Durham.
I have not found him on any census before 1881 .
On his marriage to Jane Ann Wilson on 1st July 1876  he is shown as William Common aged 22 Glassman, and his father William Common, Boilersmith.
Perhaps the Atkinson mentioned may be his mother’s name.
Definitely a puzzle.
Thanks for all the helpful ideas.
Eileen

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There is a procedure on the GRO website for notifying any perceived errors. They will then look into it. I have notified about 15 errors, some are omissions, some mis-transcribed.
Thanks for all of these responses. So quick! I need  to go through each one properly, but regarding the procedure for notifying errors, I did report this omission to GRO in 2018. Their response was below,

Report Type:   Missing entry in the birth index       Date Submitted:   27 Jul 2018 10:46
Name:   William Commons       Mother's Maiden Surname:   
Details:   The birth entry is shown in the England and Wales Civil registration birth index, yet no matching entries are found when I search in the GRO index
Current Status:   Investigated – No amendment required       GRO Index Reference:   1853 D Sunderland 10a 311
GRO Comments:   Indexed data is correct.

I am interested to learn how to see all entries on the relevant volume and page.
How do I do that ?
Once again, thanks for looking everyone.
Eileen

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Hello all. I am stumped with this one. I have been seeking to distinguish “my” William Common(s) from another. This one says he was born in Bishopwearmouth, near Sunderland in County Durham, as was.
To get info of his father, I ordered his birth certificate.  However GRO have issued me a refund, and say they have no record of him at the reference given.
I have confirmed the details vis Ancestry search, and rechecked via Free BMD and Family Search websites. Where do I go from here? Anyone struck this before?
Will be happy for any assistance.
Eileen
Below is the copy from Family Search site.

Name: William Commons
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year: 1853
Registration District: Sunderland
County: Durham
Event Place: Sunderland, Durham, England
Volume: 10A
Page: 311
Affiliate Line Number: 24


Citing this Record
"England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2NCW-LBR : 1 October 2014), William Commons, 1853; from "England & Wales Births, 1837-2006," database, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : 2012); citing Birth Registration, Sunderland, Durham, England, citing General Register Office, Southport, England.

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Westmeath / Re: Taaffe family in Coolnagun / Dunamon - Help please???
« on: Tuesday 29 January 19 05:42 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,
 I have no Patrick Melia in my line.
Have you any further info on Patrick Melia?
Are your dates his birth and death. I can try to help, but theres not much to go on.
A quick look at the Ancestry records show many named Patrick Melia, but so far I cannot find a Melia - Taffe marriage.
Regards,
Eileen

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Australia / Re: Thomas Davis - Born 1880
« on: Thursday 10 January 19 04:01 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for all of your help jamjar, yes, he does seem to have been a wanderer.
Not to forget the English lass who was trying to catch up with him after ww1.
He must have forgotten to mention his wife!

His daughter Isabella Rose Woods (mothers maiden name) was married as Isabella Rose Davis in 1928 in Wagga Wagga, to Alexander W M R Melville. The copy of her marriage cert shows her father to be alive. However when his son, Gordon Samuel Woods / Davis was married in 1937, he shows his father as deceased.
Isabella Rose married again  after her divorce. Her second marriage cert in 1947 showed her father as deceased pottery worker.
Letter from nephew Percival suggested his Uncle may have gone to New Zealand. All supposition, but it narrows the time window for his death.
Thanks for helping.
Eileen


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