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Thanks Cando & Jebber.
I had a quick look at Findmypast at the local library yesterday and found baptisms for George A & Elizabeth, although there were 2 for George A which was weird, probably an error by a transcriber. I will have a look for the GRO index records next time.
Many thanks Andrew

The 1851 census shows John Orr aged 26 (baker employing 2 men), living with wife Janet and daughter Janet at 99 Causeyside Street, Paisley. John was convicted of robbery & assault in 1857 and sent to Western Australia, wife Janet and daughters Ann & Janet followed in 1864. As yet I have not been able to find the marriage of John & Janet, though there is a marriage between John Orr and Jean Paterson 14/10/1843 which may prove to be this couple (I do realise that Jessie and Janet are sometimes interchanged, but not usually Jean).

I did however find a John Orr and Thomas Orr (both bakers) aged 18 and 19 respectively, in the 1841 census living at 46 Moss Street, Paisley. I believe it is this Thomas that marries Mary Ann Ritchie in 1847 and appears (already a widower) with 2yr old son James in the home of his father-in-law James Ritchie in the 1851 census. He remarries soon after in 1851 to Jane Stevenson and they appear in subsequent censuses until 1891. Thomas dies in 1892 and his death register entry confirms the two marriages, trade as master baker and parents as James Orr and Agnes Madden, son James from the first marriage is the informant. I haven't been able to find a marriage of James and Agnes, nor the births of Thomas or John to a couple with these names.

Do you think 1841 John & Thomas and 1851 John & Thomas the same men? Are Thomas and John brothers?

This is one of those cases where a hypothesis all fits together nicely but to-date there is no "smoking gun" in the form of supporting evidence.

And just to throw in a bit more intrigue - in the 1851 census, John & Janet's elder daughter Ann age 6 is staying at 20 Great Hamilton Street, Paisley in the home of her uncle Alexander Borland and his wife Mary. There are stepchildren in the household with the surname Houston. I know this is definitely Ann because John & Janet's son James b.1854 appears in the Borland household in the 1861 census flagged as Alexander's nephew. How are the Orrs / Borlands related?

Hi teemac,
My two Daltons are about 30 years older than your Thomas from the 1911 census, I wonder if he is a possibly a nephew? Can't be a son as they were serving in the East Indies when he was born. Is Dalton a particularly common surname in the region?
Andrew

I have been researching a Catherine Dalton who emigrated to Australia in 1857. I know she was born in British India about 1839 and this has led me to 2 possible fathers John Dalton and Thomas Dalton both of whom served in the 16th Regiment of Foot (I suspect they were brothers). The 16th Foot was stationed in Ireland in the late 1810's and early 1840's which perfectly matches the time these men were in the army.

Might interest you because;

Pte. 306 John Dalton - born 1801 in Tullamore, Kilbride, King's Co. (Labourer)
29/6/1819 aged 18, attested for 16th Regiment of Foot at Athlone, Westmeath Co.
10/9/1841 discharged after 22 yrs 65 days service.

Sgt. 401 Thomas Dalton - born 1804 in Tullamore, Kilbride, King's Co. (Labourer)
7/1/1825 aged 20, attested for 31st Regiment of Foot at Tullamore, King's Co.
6/7/1846 discharged after 21 yrs 184 days service (o'seas service 15 yrs 245 days).
The 16th Foot left Ireland in 1820 for Ceylon and British India, which explains why Thomas enlisted with the 31st Foot, I do not know when he transferred to the 16th Foot.

You can view these records on the FindMyPast site.