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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Date of the passing of Henry Chapman
« on: Tuesday 12 July 22 14:35 BST (UK)  »
Family search confirms the date of death as 1/Feb/1875
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KH67-4DB

regards
SW

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World War Two / Re: Maritime Royal Artillery
« on: Monday 06 June 22 21:57 BST (UK)  »
Hello and welcome to rootschat!
According to the book "Convoys to Russia" none of the vessels mentioned took part in any Arctic convoy. They may have sailed independently. That said most ships sailing independently were Russian flagged.
Take a look at
http://www.convoyweb.org.uk/russian/index.html?home.htm~rumain
and
https://www.warsailors.com/convoys/arctic.html

What was the name of the last ship your father sailed on including dates?

SW

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The Common Room / Re: How do I trace a ship called Liverpool
« on: Friday 27 May 22 14:40 BST (UK)  »
Further to my last post, I have found that Tobin and Co were a leading shipping company in Liverpool who's main business was concentrated on the African trade.
Logically, why would a ship bearing the name LIVERPOOL be registered in Hull?
If you don't get a positive result from Hull History Centre try an email to Liverpool Maritime Museum
maritime@liverpoolmuseums.org.uk
If they can confirm the ship LIVERPOOL was in fact registered in Liverpool. You can then go on to look at the Muster Roles at TNA Kew. A visit would be the best way to view.
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C4064441

see also
https://www.hslc.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/142-6-Lynn.pdf
SW

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The Common Room / Re: How do I trace a ship called Liverpool
« on: Tuesday 24 May 22 14:40 BST (UK)  »
The Muster Roles of HMS LIVERPOOL seems to confirm your findings. The last entry was April 1816
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_ep=Liverpool&_cr=adm37&_dss=range&_sd=1816&_ed=1816&_ro=any&_st=adv
There was a naval hospital in Liverpool.
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C2753217
That said, it may be worth looking at all the above mentioned files but I think it was more likely that Robert Millar was surgeon on a merchant ship named LIVERPOOL which was a regular trader to Africa.
The  one owned by Tobin and Co., which was connected to the port of Hull.
https://archive.org/details/HECROSU1818/page/n349/mode/2up
Hull History Centre hold Muster Roles for vessels registered in the Humber ports. It may be worth enquiring there.
https://www.hullhistorycentre.org.uk/research/research-guides/muster-rolls.aspx
regards
SW

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Patrick Doyle died 1853?
« on: Saturday 23 April 22 14:22 BST (UK)  »
I'm still pursuing information and have contacted National Archives to see what they have. Just waiting to hear what they will charge me for a search.
Out of curiosity, apart from the information submitted to the Board of Trade regarding his death, would there be any other official death registration? I have looked in the GRO records but nothing is coming up. Where would the death be registered - North Wales where he died, or Liverpool where he had lived?

Did you ever get a response from the National Archive re Logbook and Crew Agreement?
Find My Past have details of a Patrick Doyle died on board ROYAL CHARTER in 1859. I don't know if you have this. Third name down.

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/search/results?datasetname=british+armed+forces+and+overseas+deaths+and+burials&sid=103&firstname=patrick&firstname_variants=true&lastname=doyle

SW

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Reading a naval Discharge book record help
« on: Wednesday 13 April 22 16:15 BST (UK)  »
Hi.
Have you got a Card CR2 for him. (Available from FindMyPast) On the reverse of the card his ships should be listed by official number. Use the "CLIP" website to find the name/s of the vessels her served on.
https://www.crewlist.org.uk/#Data

regards
SW
Thanks Seaweed.

I’ve got this (see attached) but it doesn’t seem to go as far as 1928?

M

That appears to be the reverse of his card CR10.
In September 1918 the Board of Trade introduced an identity book, including a passport style photograph, for all merchant seamen working from British ports, together with a matching central card index (CR10 cards). Each card lists personal and foreign voyage detail for the seaman and a good quality photograph.The system operated until 1921 when it was simplified and the photograph dropped. After this date until 1941 The Cards CR1/CR2 was used to record the ships he served on.
Crew agreements and Logbooks can be obtained from three major sources. Read this guide.
https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/research-guides/research-guide-c1-merchant-navy-tracing-people-crew-lists-agreements
Scroll down.
regards 
SW

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Reading a naval Discharge book record help
« on: Wednesday 13 April 22 15:26 BST (UK)  »
Hi.
Have you got a Card CR2 for him. (Available from FindMyPast) On the reverse of the card his ships should be listed by official number. Use the "CLIP" website to find the name/s of the vessels her served on.
https://www.crewlist.org.uk/#Data

regards
SW

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Ireland / Re: Irish Prison Records 1797-1798
« on: Tuesday 05 April 22 22:13 BST (UK)  »
Hi seaweed
     I've been trying to find records of the Lively on Lloyds and could not find anything. I went to the website but nothing came up for the LIVELY or DOBSON.  Would it be possible to send me the link/s you used and how you discovered it please.  Many thanks Dianna

Hello,
Link sent via your PM
regards
SW

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Ireland / Re: Irish Prison Records 1797-1798
« on: Sunday 03 April 22 14:04 BST (UK)  »
According to Lloyds Register of shipping the vessel LIVELY, owned and captained by Dobson was classed as a Brig (Brigantine) home port, Shields. (South/North Shields) Up until 1841  Shields ships were registered in Newcastle.
It maybe worthwhile to contact Tyne and Wear Archives to see if they have anything on the1797/1798 Muster Roles (Early Logbooks) and/or movements of LIVELY during this period. Be aware there were over 20 ships with the name LIVELY. around in 1797/1798.

I don't know if you have reserched these records from London Metropolitan Archives. Re Calendars or lists of prisoners 1796-1797,
https://search.lma.gov.uk/SCRIPTS/MWIMAIN.DLL/182928473/2/3/80?RECORD&UNION=Y#coll3

regards
SW

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