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Stirlingshire / Re: Mary Sharp - Falkirk
« on: Today at 17:28 »
Hope this proves to be helpful. You can go onto the website and view the certificate for yourself free of charge. It actually states illegitimate, no father known on the marriage certificate so I think there is no doubt of her illegitimacy. Agnes Sharpe certainly had two children in Falkirk by different men and she never married. Mary is the right age for your Mary. It was common for mothers to provide pointers to the father of their illegitimate children either by giving them the fatherís name as a middle name or by entering them like this on census returns. Janet(Jessie) was officially registered as Sharp but named Dunlop on the 1861 census before reverting to Sharp. She married Thomas Campbell under the name Sharp.
It might be worth checking out the death certificate for Agnes on Scotlandspeople. I suspect the informant will be Thomas or Jessie Campbell but you might strike lucky and find that Mary or her husband is the informant.

Stirlingshire / Re: Mary Sharp - Falkirk
« on: Today at 10:34 »
From Familysearch - Janet Sharp daughter of Agnes Sharp born Falkirk 29th Dec 1859 ( recorded 1860). Janet is listed as Jessie Dunlop in 1861 census as per previous post. Agnes and Jessie (Janet) are at the same address in 1871 and 1881. In 1871 she is Jessie Sharp daughter of Agnes and they are living with Margaret Sharp (sister of Agnes) and Janet Sharp ( mother of Agnes). In 1881 she is Jessie Campbell ( wife of Thomas Campbell) and has her mother Agnes and aunt Maggie living with her. Agnes does not appear to have married and died in Falkirk in either 1884 or 1885 ( there are two Agnes Sharps of almost the same age dying on consecutive years).
It looks as if Agnes had two illegitimate daughters - Janet to ? Dunlop and Mary to ? Page and,as was common, listed them under the names of their fathers in 1861. Mary age 8 in 1861 is a very good match for your Mary.

Stirlingshire / Re: Mary Sharp - Falkirk
« on: Today at 09:26 »
However in 1861 in Falkirk there is also an Agnes Sharp age 30 with two daughters Mary Page age 8 and Jessie Dunlop age 13 months. Jessie looks to be the Janet Sharp born in Falkirk in 1860. If so, then possibly a case of the children being listed under names of their fathers.

Stirlingshire / Re: Mary Sharp - Falkirk
« on: Today at 09:12 »
On further investigation Mary Binnie looks to be the daughter of Mary ( sister of Agnes) Sharpe and Her husband George.

Stirlingshire / Re: Mary Sharp - Falkirk
« on: Today at 08:50 »
As this is before the start of civil registration in 1855 the birth may simply not be recorded, particularly as it was illegitimate. The 1878 marriage certificate confirms this and states father not known. I donít think either of the two couples you mention are relevant as in both cases Records show that they had a legitimate daughter called Mary.
In 1861 there is a family in Falkirk comprising Alexander and Margaret Sharpe and their daughter Agnes and also their 8 year old granddaughter Mary Binnie who was born in Falkirk. It is possible that Mary was the illegitimate daughter of Agnes Sharpe but listed under the name of her father. This is not uncommon. When Mary married her surname was spelt Sharpe.

Can you please list all the information on the birth certificate, 1883, and the marriage certificate, 1909.

Birth certificate i have is the wrong person  :( so wont be of any use.

Marriage Certificate Details of 1909.

William Henry Squires. Birth: abt 1884. Marriage place: Oxford
Father: George Henry Squires. Profession: Furniture Dealer

Spouse: Ann Hill. Birth: Abt 1886
Father: John Hill. Profession: Farm Labourer
Does the marriage certificate say what William Henryís occupation was?

Warwickshire / Re: Help with finding Father of my 2nd Great Grandfather
« on: Monday 18 June 18 17:02 BST (UK)  »
There is a report in the Portsmouth Evening News 14 July 1914 about William Henry Squires aged 38 charged with neglecting his wife & children.  The children are named as William aged 3 and Henry Leonard 3 months, with the address being Highbury Street, Portsmouth - the same as Henry Leonard's birth certificate.

According to the report, William Henry was a doorkeeper at various travelling shows and had been apprehended in London.  An inspector for the Society of Prevention of Cruelty to Children was involved and testified that William Henry had 'systematically neglected his wife and children', although his wife refused to testify against him.
Seems his age is a bit fluid!

Warwickshire / Re: Help with finding Father of my 2nd Great Grandfather
« on: Sunday 17 June 18 21:11 BST (UK)  »
There are several trees on Ancestry for George Squires and Catherine Garle which show son William marrying Emma Powell in 1907 and dying in 1934.

Warwickshire / Re: Help with finding Father of my 2nd Great Grandfather
« on: Sunday 17 June 18 20:29 BST (UK)  »
Do you know where William and Ann were in 1911? I note from the attestation in 1914 that they had a three year old son called William. The only William I can see born to a Squires mmn Hill is a William Frederick born June qutr 1911 in Reading. In the 1911 census in Reading there is a William Hy Squires and Wife Ann who have been married a year and have no children. Only problem is he is age 49 and says he was born in Nottingham. She is 25.
May be a complete red herring.

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