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Monmouthshire / Re: Uchlawcoed and the Elias Family
« on: Tuesday 16 October 18 14:54 BST (UK)  »


Did Daniel also have a daughter Jane? There's a Jane,  mentioned here (Welsh article). Daughter of the late Daniel Elias of Bryn Oer, Rhymney, recently married to a Mr Arthur English of the New York Observer. They were visiting the welsh community in Scranton, Pennsylvania
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3540459/3540462/37/

I can also find mention of a Thomas Morris of Rhymney, who married Catherine Elias daughter of Daniel of Bryn Oer, who died in Spring Brook Pa, in 1900. As it says they came to the Us many years ago, I wonder if this is a previous Daniel? (although I see a tree on Ancestry suggesting Jane & Catherine are Daniel's daughters from a previous marriage)

Jane's marriage to Arthur S English.

Marriage: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2442-P81

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Monmouthshire / Re: Uchlawcoed and the Elias Family
« on: Tuesday 16 October 18 14:50 BST (UK)  »
Greetings Nice People,
            My Grandmother was born and brought up on two farms in a place called "Uchlawcoed".
        It is supposed to be in the Rhymney area but I can't find it. My grandmothers' name was
        Mary Elias and her fathers name was Daniel Elias. She was one of eight children according
         to the 1881 census , but the family were also mentioned in the 1871 census in the same area.
            Obviously I am tracing my family tree but after 3 years I have only found about
        one twigs worth so any ideas on where I can find records on this area would be great.
             I have just joined "The Geneologist" and finding things a bit different.

            Thanks and kind regards - Keith   
    Just to confirm , They were all one family I believe - ty

For reference purposes. I assume this is the family in question in 1871/1881 census:

1871 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V55Z-L1V

1881 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WM-YFL8

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Staffordshire / Re: How did he get there?
« on: Monday 15 October 18 15:32 BST (UK)  »
This looks possible :

W Swinnerton b 1888 , footman
dep 11 April 1913 Liverpool
ship's destination St Johns , New Brunswick
SS Virginian


I can't pick him up on the arrival manifest.

Edit : found him as Wm H Swinnertor , destination province Quebec.
arrived Halifax , NS 18 Apr 1913

If you look on Image 206 from the above ship's list and the last 4 columns his seaport of landing is St Johns. Date of landing 18 Apr. 1913 and name of ship is SS SS Virginian.

This seems to support what you have posted.

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Staffordshire / Re: How did he get there?
« on: Monday 15 October 18 14:44 BST (UK)  »
Family Search has two versions of that 1913 Border Crossing with the last name spelled differently on both. One is just a transcription with no image, the other has image of passenger ship record.

The "William Swinniston" noted above (no Image)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XPBB-2JS

The "William Swinniaton" with image
He appears on line 4, images 205 & 206.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK3B-H8K9

The record mentions a sister Lizzie in Staffordshire and his destination is a Mr Green in NY.

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United States of America / Re: Bridget Browne
« on: Saturday 13 October 18 22:27 BST (UK)  »
Hi all,
Thank you so much for all your help it is so much appreciated.

Could the Alice be her sister  "The informant was Mrs. Alice (Lamond)? signature not easy to read, address 920 North 45th Street.."

Any way of working out who Alice was?

Thanks again for all your help

Kieran

Here is the DC.

What do you see for the informant's name?

DC: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mux/

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United States of America / Re: Oscar Cowan, Rockland, Maine, 1934 to 1941
« on: Saturday 13 October 18 17:53 BST (UK)  »
A possible link?

A Charles O Abbott, seaman, is giving his birthplace as Thomaston, Maine in 1943 (about the right age for Oliver Abbott)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-994K-K9LW-N?i=303&cc=1923888

A Charles O Abbott is in Rockland, Maine, in 1930:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XMD9-95T
This family are interesting.  According to the dates of "first marriage", they've only been married 4 years.  So is "Cleveland C Abbott" not the father of the children?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2HM-2MCF
 - in WWI a George Oscar Abbott, wife Lizzie, was in the Knox Co area.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MR3H-FJ6
 - and in 1910 a George O. Abbott appears with wife Lizzie F and two children including Charles O.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RY6-S43B?cc=1803978
 - death of another young girl in 1913

I haven't been able to pin them down in the 1920 census yet...


Here is some more bits and pieces that seem to support your theory.

I think George O, G.O., Charles O, Oscar (Cowan?)  are all the same person.

Marriage 1905 to Lizzie F.Tilden: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VZ3Q-RBQ

Son Wilbert birth 1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q24X-G17B

Lizzie gets married to Cleveland in 1925.
Marriage: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCJ8-HN7

Cleveland's WWI: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2HM-KG18

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United States of America / Re: Obituary Alexander Forbes 1935
« on: Saturday 13 October 18 16:13 BST (UK)  »
Huron Evening Huronite
21 Oct. 1935

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United States of America / Re: Obituary Alexander Forbes 1935
« on: Saturday 13 October 18 16:12 BST (UK)  »
Hoping someone can help ...I am looking to see if there is an obituary record for Alexander Forbes Death 19 October 1935 South Dakota ...He is the son of William Taylor Forbes and Agnes Ferguson of Cluny Aberdeenshire....I have all the other information on his marriage and family was just hoping if there Is a obituary record it might mention his bothers

Thank you Rosie

You sent me a PM  earlier this year about obits for him and his brothers. I sent info on one brother in LA, but you never replied back so I didn't send what I found for Alexander. Here it is now.

Huron Evening Huronite
19 Oct. 1935

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United States of America / Re: Obituary Alexander Forbes 1935
« on: Saturday 13 October 18 15:46 BST (UK)  »
Hoping someone can help ...I am looking to see if there is an obituary record for Alexander Forbes Death 19 October 1935 South Dakota ...He is the son of William Taylor Forbes and Agnes Ferguson of Cluny Aberdeenshire....I have all the other information on his marriage and family was just hoping if there Is a obituary record it might mention his bothers

Thank you Rosie

Huron Evening Huronite
26 Oct. 1935

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