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I have found this fascinating - even outside of the desire to search for some context for my MiL.

Even more interesting because many of the newspaper articles I mentioned were from Sheffield and that is the city that my MiL has lived in for the past (almost) 90 years !  How strange.

She will also love the fact that 'The Grange' was previously owned by the creator of the Birmingham Rep Theatre and my MiL's adoptive father played piano in Sheffield theatres, including the wonderful Lyceum Theatre, and they 'took in' theatrical folk as boarders !

The world does indeed turn in circles , or as they would say in The Lion King ... 'The Circle of Life'.
 

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Lancashire / Re: Budge and Aubrey Ladies Outfitters at 89 Drake Street, Rochdale in 1925
« on: Tuesday 15 September 15 16:47 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for checking on that, Heywood.

Obviously that would have made things too simple .... Ha !

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Lancashire / Re: LANE, Liverpool, from 1891 onwards
« on: Tuesday 15 September 15 16:07 BST (UK)  »
Thanks to you all.

Interesting fact Shaun about the Wiltshire folk in Liverpool - the place was a bit of a magnet, for both onward travel and local employment and the place developed.  I understand that Liverpool was the second biggest city in England for a time.

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Wiltshire / Re: LANE, Wiltshire
« on: Tuesday 15 September 15 16:04 BST (UK)  »
You are most welcome!  Having worked in West Lavington for three years I found this one tempting!

George Lane/Annie Snell marriage Newport Q4 1897 most likely.  She, born Leeds 1875, was living in Woolos also in 1891.  The time they say they have been married in a later census is a year out but perhaps maths wasn't their strong point!

Best of luck with the rest - are you related to Penny in Liverpool?

maxD

Cheers MaxD

Penny (Lane) was the name of our first cat if that helps !  Then inflation took hold and second cat had to be called Tuppence ....... seriously !

I visited the Cheverells/Lavingtons area a few times when working in Wiltshire - even found a cottage the family had lived in which was really nice.

Thanks again - I'm learning all the time.

Pete

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Wiltshire / Re: LANE, Wiltshire
« on: Monday 14 September 15 20:22 BST (UK)  »
Check out George Lane, nephew, in Wales in 1891, George Lane transcribed as Jane in Wales 1901 married to Annie and also ten years later (birth place as Diviyes).  Looks like him (the Nottingham one doesn't really check out).

maxD

Chased this one down and makes better sense than my Nottingham travels, so thank you.  It also explains why my great grandfather was in Newport in 1891, living only 0.5 mile away from his uncle and brother.

Still can't find his marriage to 'Annie' (interesting that she is from Castleford) and no death in Newport - although that's not so strange, especially for a railway worker who may be moved with the job.

My Lane family tree now looks a bit tidier !

Cheers MaxD,

Pete

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Thanks again, Rosie, and Heywood.

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Wiltshire / Re: LANE, Wiltshire
« on: Monday 14 September 15 17:25 BST (UK)  »
Thanks MaxD.  I think you've found me out there !

That is stuff I did about 20 years ago (when less was available on line - and I was starting out on this family history experience) and I have never reviewed it.

I will go back and do a full review but I think you have clearly spotted an error with Alfred.

Cheers

Pete

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The newspaper reports are on British Newspaper (BNA) website or FindMyPast.  A lot of libraries in England have access to these databases

Rosie

Thanks Rosie - I took about a 1 month sub to FindMyPast to view them.

Pete

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So, a bit more time spent looking into the Crozier family and some interesting findings - funny how a thread like this becomes intriguing, even if its doesn't directly help to solve the original problem !

So, Wilhelmina Crozier ....... I read the two accounts on the 1918 Derby incident (whilst Wilhelmina was based in Manchester) with great interest and carried on searching within the newspapers.  Lo and behold, 4 more instances appear of newspaper reported court appearances relating to the emotive term of baby farming (at worst) or failure to abide by adoption notification purposes (at best)!

All the incidents were in 1911 and 1912, whilst Wilhelmina was based in the Blackley area of Manchester (same location as the 1911 census).  The reports are in the Manchester Courier (23/3/1911), Sheffield Daily Telegraph (10/8/1911 and 30/9/1911) and Yorkshire Telegraph (1/2/1912).  All confirm that arranging adoptions (formal or informal for babies) was regular business for Wilhelmina ... and she seemed to make quite a few mistakes around this period.  The Sheffield Board of Guardians were especially peeved about failure to notify them of arrangements.

Clearly, these reports pre-date the 1918 reports and I can't find anything in-between or after.  Surely these cases (and fines) must have had some impact on their activities !  There is a location move of only a couple of miles from Blackley (1911) to Moston/Harpurhey (1918) and, in fact, some attempt at formalisation of their activities into the Ashton-on-Mersey Nursing/Maternity Home.

So, why the move to Birmingham ?  Any thoughts ?

Does anyone know whether how property transfers were recorded in 1925 ? The Grange in Moseley seems to be connected to the Croziers in October 1925 but in the 1925 Electoral Roll to the Jackson family.  The Crozier's may have been tenants, of course, not buyers.

Ok, that's my synopsis for a film script about illegal adoption practices in the early 1900s !


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