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One Name Studies: A to G / Re: AIREY - Calling all Airey Descendant's.
« on: Monday 11 November 19 23:27 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Sue. No connection that I can find at present. My Airey antecedents were mostly from Kentmere in Westmorland (which is very near Kendal) so maybe there is a link? James Airey & his wife are buried in Kentmere churchyard & my mother is descended from one of his sons. Regards. K

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One Name Studies: A to G / Re: AIREY - Calling all Airey Descendant's.
« on: Sunday 04 March 18 21:19 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for the info. Spoke to my mother & we can't link it in to our family at present, but they were mostly from Kentmere area, which is not far away.

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Wow jim1 you are a star! I have searched and searched, but never came up with that info. I have looked now and read up a bit on how you use the electoral registers. I thought they were included in the searches I was doing, but maybe not. It's like one big maze to get lost in. So much for me to learn. Thanks again.

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Gosh Jim1 you have done much better than me. I can't find him except in the 1901 census with Florence at 7 Kilburn Sq?

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Oh heavens sorry - I lost my reply in the middle of writing. Hope I'm not repeating. Not sure how to answer people separately, sorry for that. Jim1 I agree about the 'mother' & 'your mother' point, but that's the only explanation I can give & it appears to agree with what has been handed down in the family (may not always be 100% reliable I know). Regarding the 'Aug 94' in the left hand margin of the baptism, I was assuming it meant 1894? Which would still be wrong according to family info, and also doesn't help to bring anything up in my research. Carol thank you for your efforts with the photo restore. actually it is just dating info I was looking for. I can manage photoshop and have done quite a lot of restoring. I am just a complete novice at the family research side of it. Thanks again for your efforts and for taking the time, I do quite enjoy working on my own photos. Actually I find it quite sad looking at that face and wondering whatever happened to her?

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Thank you jim1. Yes I noticed the bit about the royal warrant, but glad you can tell me about the style of dress. I was just trying to go by the age she looks on the photo. Also that we know she was adopted in 1901 and the postcard must have come after that. I do think it is from Florence (the adoptive Mum to Gertrude/ May's sister Edith. I think the girl's Mother (Ada Caroline Ling nee Yates) was probably unwell, so they are corresponding through Edith? Thing is - we can Find Florence & Raymond Martin at 7 Kilburn Sq (the same address that is also on the letter of adoption) on the 1901 census, but nothing definite of them before or after and no marriage that I can find. Also for Gertrude, no definite birth. She appears with Edith on the 1901 census living with an Aunt at 45 Victoria Road, Willesden. Family info through my husband's mother (Edith's daughter) is that Gertrude was born in 1891. My husband's mother was pretty reliable and as you see from the photo, she wrote on them to say who people were, which is a great help to us now! There is a baptism record for a May Ling in 1901, which has to be 'our' May (father deceased) but the info in the left column appears to give the actual dob as 1894 (which would make her younger than Edith, not older). We think this is the adoptive parents having Gertrude baptised as May - it's the only thing that seems to fit - except for the 1894 bit.... Anyway what I am saying is that anything that helps us to narrow down dates is really helpful and that my guess at the date of the photo agrees with yours. Still a lot more to unravel. Thanks again.

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Thank you for your help. Yes I found out a fair bit about the Reality Series, but nothing that helped me date it. I hesitated to show the back because of the copyright issue. I have read (lots of times!) the rules about copyright from links on this site & as far as I can understand it, the picture should be well out of copyright by now. Also all the people in the images (or whom I might discuss by name) are deceased. Also it is quite a sad thing that we have the letter of adoption in 1901 and then just this one postcard. I think that Ada Caroline Ling (mother to Edith and Gertrude/May Martin probably had no option but to relinquish her daughter as her husband had recently died (we think in 1900 - but not definite yet). I suspect it might have been a choice between that or the workhouse :( Well here is the reverse of the card. You can just make out the signature on the bottom as F Martin (Florence Martin, her adoptive mother). Thanks again.

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I would be so grateful for help dating this photo of my husband's grandmother's sister please. She was adopted in 1901 and we think her name may have been changed. This postcard with photo of May was sent from her adopted mother to her younger sister (Edith Avery nee Ling, b1893 d1983). as you will see the stamp and therefore any date has been removed. All that remains of the frank (Wil) I think will stand for Willesden. The company who produced the card is A & G Taylor's Reality Series. Sadly Edith lost touch with her sister Gertrude/ May and we have been unable to discover what happened to her. Any help would be much appreciated, thank you.

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London and Middlesex / Re: Ling family Middlesex 1890 to 1900s
« on: Tuesday 15 March 16 19:41 GMT (UK)  »
OK The letter says
Memorandum of agreement made 14th day of June 1901 between Raymond Martin of 7 Kilburn Square, London, in the county of Middlesex and Ada Ling of [space] London, in the county of Middlesex.
Gertrude Ling being the eldest daughter of Ada Ling and of Richard Ling (deceased)...
Raymond Martin agrees to accept and adopt as his own child as her natural and legal parent and guardian. The said Ada Ling agrees to surrender all claims, title and interest in the said child. Counterpart agreement between Raymond Martin and Ada Ling Dated 14th June 1901. Signed and delivered by the above mentioned Raymond Martin and Ada Ling in the presence of Florence Martin [her signature].

There are no official stamps or anything on it.

I'm not sure about your Laura Gertrude Ling. My husband's Grandmother  (Edith Avery Ling) and his Mother always called her Gertrude. Edith remembered that the Martins wanted to adopt her, but she cried and screamed and didn't want to be parted from her mother, whereas Gertrude was happy to go, so they adopted her instead.

Not sure where I got the middle name Ada from. Will have to check back through my records.

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