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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA
« on: Saturday 23 June 18 20:00 BST (UK)  »
Hi Margaret

Thank you for your reply, I presume that the problem happens with the parents of the 8 siblings , i dont know what but whatever happens further back with Cornelious and John would have no bearing i dont think on the dna being different, but thats just me presuming as i really dont know. No dont have any details on their births at all . xx

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA
« on: Saturday 23 June 18 17:58 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Margaret. The Americans come in back in 1833 in Killeen Meath. Cornelious Mahon marries Jane Ward in Moynalvy. John Mahon marries Bridget Cowley the same week.John and Bridget go to Dublin and Cornelious goes to American, The Americans i speak of are  decendants of Cornelious and i Believe John was his brother. John went on to have Thomas Mahon who left Dublin and   had the eight siblings  am talking about. So if John and Cornelious were brothers then Thomas and would be a cousin to Cornelious children.xx 

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA
« on: Saturday 23 June 18 08:01 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Bridget

The problem is yes i agree , Me and my sister have several on that we dont both match and i believe thats totally expected but in this case the DNA of the Americans start coming in at 16th on my list and carry on being there in both me and my sister. Each time a new american gets DNA tested from this family me and my sister match but not the cousins. Even ancestry have said to have at least 30 of these 2nd cousins who don't match these people means clearly they are not related and for us to match we are.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA
« on: Friday 22 June 18 21:44 BST (UK)  »
HI Bridget thank you for your reply, So my Grandfather is one of these eight.I have no first cousins who have taken the DNA.so my list on my dna starts with my sister then my matches are as follows.
(hope you know how the dna look haha)
1 my sister
2. 2nd to  3rd one of the grandchildren of the eight
3. 2nd to 3rd one of the grandchildren of the eight
4. my mothers side
5. 3rd to 4th a great great grandson of the eight
6. unknown
7. 3rd to 4th one of the grandchildren of the eight.
8. 3rd to 4th one of the grandchildren of the eight
9. 3rd to 4th a great grandson of the eight.
10.my mothers side
11.unknown
124 -6.my mothers side.
13.4-6 my mothers side.
14.4-6 a great grandson of the mother of the eights sister.
15.unknown 
16. 4-6 the american i thinks is related
17.4-6 one of the grandchildren of the eight
18. 4.6  the american i think is related (cousin of the one above)
it goes on like this with another 4 from the americans matching.

A sample of dna from 2nd  to 3rd  cousin.
132 centimorgans shared across 7 DNA segments according to ancestry 100% Related.

This is the american dna 51 centimorgans shared across 4 DNA segments which according to ancestry means 99% related.
I dont believe the dna is wrong.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA
« on: Friday 22 June 18 18:18 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for your reply...

We are talking 2nd cousins, we are all the grandchildren of 8 original brothers and sisters.
We all match regardless I presume because of the mother of these 8 children, we have matches in common across the board for the mothers family, as in all the relevant cousins we can see have matches to the mothers family but the one person I find with the Mahon surname from another Mahon as I describe below doesn't match any of them.

Having researched this for many years, it lead me back to Killeen, Meath in the 1830's and to what I on paper I made the assumption were 2 brothers (John & Cornelius) marrying within days of eachother - this was a hunch at the time based on shared witness names and their location, etc - I then found Cornelius going to the US - I was able to find a descendant of him and his wife who I contacted. This is the person I mention in the thread that told me he had done Ancestry DNA test and a huge breakthrough when we do in fact match!!

I have since matched with every relative on his side that has taken the DNA test, as has my sister.

The obvious reason for the lack of match would be that MY grandfather is the odd the odd one out and was fathered by someone else, the child of a family member, etc - but it's his descendants e.g. me and my sister who match the people in America and they are the people who share the same MAHON surname and who we have matched them to in our search. So even prior to the DNA test results we believed they were related.

Looking at it does everyone reading this believe that the disconnect could only have happened with the parents of these 8 children?
I can't see even if my grandfather had different a different father how his descendants can share a connection with someone who is also a direct descendant of a Mahon, who we know is from the same area and we believed was a relation before the DNA almost 200 years ago.

Any other views would be great and I look forward to your replies

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA
« on: Friday 22 June 18 12:47 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Jim just wondering i suppose if people on here think the same as me, or what the explanation is. The main thing is that we carry the name Mahon and the American people we match are that name so if the Americans had a different surname that i would 100% think my grandfather isnt  who we think he is, but it looks strange because we are the only match and not the cousins if that makes sense.x

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA
« on: Wednesday 20 June 18 22:27 BST (UK)  »
I Know Martin its the strangest thing ever.x

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / DNA
« on: Wednesday 20 June 18 21:48 BST (UK)  »
hi all dont know if im in the correct place but i have a query on ancestry dna. my sister and i have both taken the test and match with the children/grandchildren of 8 siblings of which one is my grandfather. so basically the point is that even though i dont know most of these i have a list passed down and i know 100% that we are connected. during my research over the years i have been in contact with a family called mahan (i am researching mahon) they have matched with my search and after being in touch for 6 months they said they had taken the dna test , so i took one and we matched. i have since matched with all their family who have since taken the dna test. butttt my cousins dont match, not one of them. i have contacted ancestry and because there is at least 30 of my cousins that dont match these people there is not the possibility that the dna has just not been picked up , so there must be a person who is not who we think they are. eg adopted , fathered by someone else etc. but my query is that we are the ones with the name so we must be the right connection but unlikely the  mother would have the middle child to her husband and all the others not . everyone is dead so no one is going to get hurt and also i dont feel its something i would share anyway , but as far as my research goes i thought i had hit the jackpot because it proves the person who i was researching  is correct. its been years of research and now this has thrown a different light on things. can anyone help as i have been looking to find someone on google but looks like no one does this.xx

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Meath / Re: Killeen Parish Records 1768 - 1791
« on: Thursday 08 March 18 18:09 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,
 In the Tithe records.....1823 to 1837, Sylvester Mahon lived in Furryhill in the Parish of Kilmissan.
use this link below and match up the names, it does fill in some gaps. Then use the Parish Books for later years.
Mahon
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=mahon&firstname=&county=Meath&townland=&parish=&search=Search&sort=&pageSize=&pager.offset=10

Cowley
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=cowley&firstname=&county=Meath&townland=&parish=&search=Search&sort=&pageSize=&pager.offset=0

Hope this helps
Maggsie

Thank you we have these but can't seem to find births for them anywhere. Think Sylvester dies, Cornelius goes to America with his wife Jane Ward. Nicholas gets married in Meath but not sure where he goes afterwards. So was trying to go back a generation for clues and to find some parents.

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