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Rutland / Re: Oakham Lords Hold
« on: Thursday 30 January 20 15:43 GMT (UK)  »
In answer to your query, Oakham School is part of the foundation set up by Robert Johnson in 1584, and is still very much active. If W H Agar is shown in the 1891 Census as at Oakham School then he would have been either a boy at the school or a member of staff. It should be possible to check this by contacting the school direct at archivesuser@oakham.rutland.sch.uk. I'm sure they would be interested to hear of the medals too.

Oakham Workhouse was built in 1836-7 and would still have been fulfilling this function in 1891, but had no connection with the school at that time. It remained a workhouse until becoming a hospital in the mid-20th century. When it was eventually closed, Oakham School then bought the buildings and it is now part of the school.

The workhouse grandfather clock which was bought by the Board of Guardians of the Oakham Union in 1836 is now in the Rutland County Museum in Oakham ( see Rutland Record 2 (1981) 82-3 at http://www.rutlandhistory.org/rutlandrecord/rr02.pdf - access is free).

Regards

Editor, Rutland Local History & Record Society

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Rutland / Re: HOTCHKIN of Tixover
« on: Wednesday 31 August 16 08:32 BST (UK)  »
You're welcome. I've only just signed up to this forum but thought it worth responding even though your query was so long ago. I'm glad to know your researches have been successful. Maybe others will find Brian Palmer's article interesting too.
Regards.

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Rutland / Re: Oakham Lord Hold
« on: Tuesday 30 August 16 20:50 BST (UK)  »
Just to make the point (rather late in the day!) that Oakham Lordshold was one of the two manors of Oakham and included the Castle and much of the town, the other manor being Deanshold (belonging to the Abbey of Westminster). The Oakham workhouse happens to be in Lordshold: it is not itself 'Lordshold'! Consult the Record Office for Leicestershire, Leicester and Rutland for relevant archives.

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Rutland / Re: Military records
« on: Tuesday 30 August 16 20:43 BST (UK)  »
It is the 58th Regiment, not the 48th, whose name was originally associated with Rutland. The 48th was the Northamptonshire Regiment. The 58th eventually merged to become a battalion of the 48th, but long after the period you are interested in. I would also caution you that many of the men who served in the county regiments did not in fact come from the county named in the regimental title (for instance, many of the 58th were Irish). Try this link to the regimental museum:
http://www.armymuseums.org.uk/museums/0000000075-northamptonshire-regiment-and-northamptonshire-yeomanry-collections.htm

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Rutland / Re: HOTCHKIN of Tixover
« on: Tuesday 30 August 16 20:34 BST (UK)  »
If you are not already familiar with it, you may find the following article useful:
PALMER, Brian, Thomas Hotchkin of Tixover (1774-1843)  Rutland Record 28 (2008), 304-15.
Copies of this issue are still available - see Rutland Local History & Record Society's pages on www.genfair.co.uk.

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Rutland / Re: High Streets, Oakham & Loughborough (Photos anyone?)
« on: Tuesday 30 August 16 20:29 BST (UK)  »
There is a very extensive collection of Rutland photographs in the Rutland County Museum, Oakham, Jack Hart collection, so I suggest consulting that archive. Frith images are good but few in number. Also consider looking at Matkins Oakham Almanacks (1881-1941) of which there is a run in the same collection.

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Rutland / Re: "Rutlandshire": did it exist?
« on: Tuesday 30 August 16 20:20 BST (UK)  »
In answer to the original question, the etymology of the county name of Rutland is generally accepted as deriving from 'Rota's land', and the earliest forms do not have the suffix '-shire'. Although an area known as Rutland is first attested pre-Conquest as dowry land of Mercian queens, Rutland as a county emerges somewhat later. Rutland came to be regarded as a 'shire county' and is frequently referred to in post-medieval sources as 'Rutlandshire'. You can safely regard the two names as synonymous, but the preferred usage is 'Rutland'. For the origins of the county, see Charles Phythian-Adams in Rutland Record no 1 (1980), 5-12 (published by Rutland Local History & Record Society)..

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