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Ross & Cromarty / MacMillan family on Lewis - Lemreway and Stimerway
« on: Thursday 15 June 17 22:53 BST (UK)  »
Anyone doing research on this family and would like to share ideas and facts?

My grandmother was Christina MacMillan, she married John Mackie in 1915, in Stornoway but they left the island in 1922/23).  Her father was Angus MacMillan (B1860) and her mother was Isabella MacLean (B1865). 

Angus’ parents were Angus MacMillan (B1827) and Christina Nicolson (B1830)
Isabella’s parents were Murdoch MacLean (B1835) and Ann McGrigor (B1827)

That Angus’ father was also Angus MacMillan (B1783) known as “Saighdear’ (the Soldier).
Historically the families lived in crofts at Stiomrabhagh (Stimerway) and Leumrabhagh (Lemreway).
I live in NZ but was born in Port Glasgow, which is where John and Christina moved when they left Lewis.  I have visited Lewis in 1996 – but had not done a lot of research before I went, so did not visit the old croft sites. 
cheers Ellen

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Ross & Cromarty / Re: John Mackie in Stornoway 1915
« on: Saturday 25 February 17 20:11 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Annie,
Yes I have checked out the other siblings (male) some time ago and think I found them "existing" after 1915.....marriages, children etc.  However I am going to recheck and finally eliminate them.  I also checked Samuel's siblings....looking for likely cousins and am still progressing this. 
Interesting about the "homers", I hadn't heard of them.  Anyway, thanks for your help and encouragement.....I'll keep chipping away.  Unfortunately I have lost contact with my Mackie cousins back in Scotland....but maybe I can find one of them and they may have some more clues.

cheers
Ellen

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Ross & Cromarty / Re: John Mackie in Stornoway 1915
« on: Thursday 23 February 17 21:37 GMT (UK)  »
Hi again,
Re the sibling thing - John McKay 1884 had several siblings but all younger than him born between 1885 and 1894 so them having illegitimate child idea doesn't work.  (Funnily enough that was how I found Samuel's ancestors, as he was actually the son of his "sister" and was brought up by his grandparents, calling them parents).  I have done some investigation around Samuel's siblings - looking for a possible child born around 1890 that could have been my John, but no luck so far.

I don't know where my Granda John was born - have always assumed Glasgow, until this other John McKay came up.  I don't think he was a Stornoway native, as family stories state that he went there and met my Granny - she is from there and I have traced several generations of her people.

I did try searching for John MACKIE in the 1911 census - and one came up in Barra  - which is in the Western Isles also?  States this John Mackie was 22, Ships Carpenter, born in St Cyrus Kincardineshire ....but not that hopeful because of the occupation - I'll pursue this a little further.
My only option in establishing where he came from/who he actually is.....is if someone who knew them in Stornoway may have noted where he came from, or said he came from.......

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Ross & Cromarty / Re: John Mackie in Stornoway 1915
« on: Thursday 23 February 17 03:33 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Annie, Yes sorry John McKay B1884, Married Charlotte and died in England....he is the "real" son of Samuel and Annie.....on that Marriage Cert he notes parents Samuel McKay and Annie Morley.
I'm wondering if my John was some sort of relative because he knew Samuel and Annie's details.
I'm sure that the information on the other tree is correct - I contacted the author and they are as puzzled as me.  (There has always been some mystery in the family surrounding my granda.)
 
Your other question....yes my grandparents remained in Port Glasgow - that's where I was born.  My parents emigrated to NZ in 1961.    John died in Port Glasgow and my father (John Angus Mackie) was the informant. 
BTW on Christina and John's MC the witnesses are noted as Thomas Arnott and Elizabeth Disher(?)
cheers E

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Ross & Cromarty / Re: John Mackie in Stornoway 1915
« on: Thursday 23 February 17 02:07 GMT (UK)  »
Wow - quick reply!   Here are answers and further info :
1. The census records I found are all for John McKay 1884.
2. Yes have birth certificate for John McKay 1884 - states parents are Samuel & Annie.  He married Charlotte Cunningham Robertson in Glasgow, 1912.
3. Middlesex, England
4/5. Christina lived at 22 Stag Road, she was 22 and a fishworker.  Yes I thought he had altered his age but am now thinking the age was right and the name was wrong!
6.  Yes probably a lodger.  I also checked Valuation Role for him (1920)  and found he was a tenant at 8 Mckenzie St Bayhead St (Funny address).  He is noted as a Jeweller on there.

My grandparents left Stornoway in 1922 or 1923 and moved to Port Glasgow.
Thank you so much for your interest!!

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Ross & Cromarty / John Mackie in Stornoway 1915
« on: Thursday 23 February 17 01:07 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,
John Mackie was my grandfather and he married my grandmother Christina MacMillan in Stornoway in 1915.  On this marriage certificate he stated that his parents were Samuel Mackie and Annie Morley and he was 25 years old (making his birth year 1890).  After some research I discovered that Samuel was actually Samuel McKay.  They did have a son, John McKay born 1884 and I assumed this was my Granda.  However, on further searching I found this John McKay in someone else's tree.....and he was the real son of Samuel and Annie.  He died in Middlesex in 1961.
Now I have an issue....who was my grandfather?  I do think that he must have known the McKays as he had their details.  (They lived in Govan, Glasgow). He must have definitely been born in 1890 as his death certificate in 1955 states he was 65 years old. 

I am wondering if there is anyone on Lewis who can help with any information on him when he arrived in Stornoway and subsequently married Christina in 1915?  His occupation noted on marriage certificate is "General Dealer" and address was 43 Bayhead Street, Stornoway.  Any help that would point me in the right direction would be much appreciated. 

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