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The Common Room / Gilbert McCall 1765 Monkton
« on: Wednesday 06 December 17 00:30 GMT (UK)  »
I am trying to find out who the parents of Gilbert McCall are?  I think that he was born in 1765 in Monkton, Ayrshire possibly to an Alexander (McCaul).  Gilbert married Margaret Neil in 1794 in Dundonald.  Am I right in thinking there will only be ledger entries for these dates and no actual paper certificates?

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Thanks SolidRock.  I had no idea about toll roads before finding this inclusion in the will document.  I now know a little bit but can see a lot has been written about the subject.  Looks like John Ellaway had bid for and secured a lease on the revenue from a section of the toll road and that the term of the lease extended beyond his death.  His father came from East Hendred but before that his grandfather was in Letcombe Regis and great grandfather in Wantage, born around 1625.  I have not found any other informative documentation that might explain John's his involvement in toll roads.  He describes himself as a yeoman farmer.  My ancestral line moves to Beenham well before the death of John and from there gets sucked into the East End of London.  I'm guessing that a lot of people have the same experience I've had seeing many branches of the family gravitate from rural occupations into the industrial centres and then getting mangled by the impact of the long depression once there. 

A document I found that was useful to skim through on Toll Roads is here :

http://www.turnpikes.org.uk/Reading%20turnpike%20roads.htm


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Thanks for having a crack at this, the turnpike information is really useful.  There must be something on subsequent pages about other property I guess.

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Hi, I'm trying to get some information from this will for John Ellaway in East Hendred in Berkshire regarding where he lived.  I've found details in the Berkshire Records Office on a plot of land allocated in the Enclosure process but this does not help me with where he lived.  I'm hopeless trying to read some of this.  I've deciphered a number of the monetary bequests but nothing sensible on the names of places.  Anyone with better eyesight or more practice out there?  Keen to get names of places and also anything on toll roads in the bequests.  These are the first two of five pages. Pages three and four have information on them but I can't upload them within the limits of the site.

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Cheshire Lookup Requests / Re: Wolverhampton Corrugated Iron Company Ellesmere Port
« on: Wednesday 12 April 17 06:29 BST (UK)  »
I've just read this exchange and it has given me a wonderful break through in understanding why my grandfather John P Concannon moved from Wolverhampton to Ellesmere Port.  He was an iron worker and moved from Bilston to Wolverhampton, living in digs on St Matthews Street next to the Shrubbery works in 1901, after serving in the Boer War.  I had never understood why he moved to Ellesmere Port, there being only some references to looking for work handed down through the family.  My mother's family grew up on Princes Road (No 11) close to the junction with Whitby Road. 

If anyone has further information on what must have been a huge event, shifting 2000 workers from Wolverhampton, I would be very grateful if they can share it. 

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Thanks for that. The latinised names are a joy!

The other records are as you say less likely given Irish birth.

Much appreciate the marriage record though 😊

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Fingers crossed the other thread comes back to life.  We were close to a daughter of Michael Joseph.  Cathy Whitaker lived close by to my family in Ellesmere Port before she passed away in 2012.  Unfortunately I have little recollection of family further afield and am a bit remote now living in NZ.

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The other thread was very helpful in confirming information and providing knowledge on burials but seemed to have run its course, hence why I posted this question.  It's fantastic to see such active participation in the forum. 

I have what I can get from my immediate family which is why I joined this site.  Just getting used to using forums today.  Hopefully I have not caused too much confusion.

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You are probably right.  John is a very common name in the Concannon family together with James, Joseph, Patrick and a few others.  It gets quite confusing sorting through them.  Bridget was also really popular at the time.

I think there is another Concannon branch in Yorkshire at the time with a John of the same vintage in it.

My interest is primarily with the Bilston based family.

I remember finding a Bridget Cullen in the mix and confusing her with Bridget McDonough because in the census returns for chapel street there is an Annie Cullen who is noted either as cousin or mother in law in different years.  Tough to be both although I guess stranger things have happened.

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