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Hi, Thanks for your quick response. There is no father listed on my mother's birth certificate. But on her marriage certificate a John Kelly is listed as her father. We think a father was listed to save embarrassment as no one knows about a John Kelly. As I might of mentioned, my mother died in 1968 when I was 8 and my father remarried 3 yrs later. Family legend is that Mum grew up in an orphanage and Dundrum was suggested earlier today as she was confirmed in Knockavilla in 1946. It was only after my father's recent death that certain documents & certificates came to light. She was baptised in Thurles within 2 weeks of her birth in May 1931. We have no record of what happened to her mother, also Mary Kelly. I will certainly continue with the line of enquiry you have suggested, many, many thanks.