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Lanarkshire / Re: Redlands Maternity Hospital, Glasgow
« on: Wednesday 26 September 18 04:13 BST (UK)  »
Hi there

Redlands Maternity Hospital was very much an NHS hospital in the sixties and seventies.  My mother worked there as a midwife and my sister was born there in 1968.  However, due to its rather posh west end location, many of the NHS obstetricians who took wealthy private patients would house them in Redlands rather than in the Queen Mother's Maternity Hospital that Redlands was closely associated with from about 1974 until 1978.

Redlands location was really lovely with private gardens and nice views from ward windows.  My sisters and I spent many an hour waiting outside the hospital in my dad's car for my mum to come off duty.  In "the old days" with no mobile phones, if she had a patient in late stage labour, she'd have to see it through to the birth even if it meant she was late finishing.

Hope that helps.

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West Lothian (Linlithgowshire) / Re: Family name Jarvey from Balbardie, Bathgate
« on: Thursday 12 October 17 16:46 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Anne.  Really interesting information and certainly gives me something to work on.

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West Lothian (Linlithgowshire) / Re: Family name Jarvey from Balbardie, Bathgate
« on: Thursday 05 October 17 23:21 BST (UK)  »
So you've all helped me research a bit more creatively this evening and I have found:

Mr Jarvie's Inn in Bathgate mentioned in a book called Travels in Scotland 1788-1881, where Mr Jarvie himself is described as "a most eccentric and agreeable man" and with a wonderful description of his garden.  The traveller journeyed from Sunday 23 May 1790 to the following Monday.

And Forfarian, I have come across something that may help with your research into the Cleland side, if only because it may place John and Mary.

Forbes of Callendar Papers are held by Falkirk Community Trust and it turns out they contain correspondence from John Jarvey at Balbardie, including four letters from 1790 concerning Barbauchlaw, West Lothian which he hopes William Forbes will buy.  I'm still figuring out how to see the relevant papers but it may require a wee jaunt to Falkirk.  And, of course, I'm not yet quite certain, what John Jarvey we may be dealing with.

Just wanted to keep you up-to-date.

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West Lothian (Linlithgowshire) / Re: Family name Jarvey from Balbardie, Bathgate
« on: Thursday 05 October 17 17:20 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for finding that out.  That certainly makes a lot of sense.  I read somewhere that many of the small farms in the Bathgate area disappeared with the march of the coal mines and that may have been why my lot ended up in Glasgow.  They described themselves as market gardeners after that and in the area they were in during the census of 1841, there were lots of small holdings some more like very large allottments.  And, of course, the farms on the outskirts of Glasgow provided work too before the very last George ended up managing the local saw mill.  His niece, Jane Jarvey, married one of the (Brownlee) Forrest boys, so many of the extended family worked in the saw mills.

You are all very good with your research and your abilities to "think out of the box".

Thank you.

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West Lothian (Linlithgowshire) / Re: Family name Jarvey from Balbardie, Bathgate
« on: Thursday 05 October 17 15:51 BST (UK)  »
I plan a visit to the Mitchell Library in Glasgow to tie up all the loose ends of the family without it costing me a fortune on scotlandspeople website.  I'll add these three Jarvey/Jarvie to the ever growing list.  The records might indeed give more information on places.

Thank you too William.  I'm wondering if there may be records from the Marjoribanks family that give details of who tenanted their farms and when.

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West Lothian (Linlithgowshire) / Re: Family name Jarvey from Balbardie, Bathgate
« on: Thursday 05 October 17 14:18 BST (UK)  »
You are all wonderful.

I'm reasonably new to "family treeing", so it didn't even occur to me to look at old newspapers.

I think I'm with you Forfarian on this one - it does look to me as if George Jarvey, vintner, had a son John Jarvey, vintner.  And my George could probably be the son of John Jarvey of Balbardie.

I'll keep looking.

I'm very grateful to you all for your detective work.

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West Lothian (Linlithgowshire) / Re: Family name Jarvey from Balbardie, Bathgate
« on: Thursday 05 October 17 11:15 BST (UK)  »
Thank you both for getting back to me.

I know the family moved to Glasgow around 1818/19 because I have Jean Whyte's very detailed death certificate saying they'd beeen living in Glasgow for 36 years.  And the family didn't move very far from the area they originally settled until the 1960's when Possil/Maryhill was being redeveloped.

I'm thinking too that George Jarvey (1766) was perhaps an undocumented son of John and Mary, although I read somewhere that I forgot to bookmark to easily find, that some pages of records for old parish records in Bathgate/Livingston are missing.  I know too, that it was normal for a son to take over his father's farm, so perhaps George took over Balbardie when John died in 1797.  The dates certainly match.

My grandmother always said James Young Simpson was a cousin of the family. William Jarvey (1806) daughter, Jean Jarvey, was her mother, so my gran did take that middle name.  If George Jarvey is Mary Jarvey's brother, that would indeed make him a cousin of her grandfather.  Either way, I'd still love to know where my George Jarvey came from.  As for his children, John (1796) died single, in 1849.  George (1804) remained single as did their sister Jean (1800), whose birth wasn't recorded either.  William (1806) was widowed not long after the birth of his two daughters, who both married in Glasgow.  And so down to us!!!

I have read some of the very incorrect stuff about James Young Simpson.  As you say, Forfarian, total rubbish.  And, if I can ever find a connection with John Jarvey and Mary Cleland, maybe it's "hello, distant cousin".  Do you have any information on George Jarvey, vintner, of Bathgate, please?  It may be that he was the father of my George.

Once again, thank you Skoosh and Forfarian for taking the time to reply to me.

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West Lothian (Linlithgowshire) / Family name Jarvey from Balbardie, Bathgate
« on: Thursday 05 October 17 00:19 BST (UK)  »
Hi there

I have a 4x great grandfather, George Jarvey in my family line. He was born in 1766 (calculated from census records) and died sometime between 1841 and 1851.   He was married to Jean Whytt (born in Slamannan in 1769-1855).  He was a farmer as were his sons.  On the Bathgate parish records for the births of his first two sons, John Jarvey (1796-1849) and George (1804-1889), he and his wife are just named as the parents.  However, on the record for his son William (1806-1857ish), he is called George Jarvey in Balbardie and his spouse Jean Whyte ....  I can also find him as George Jarvie, Balbardie in tax records for 1797/98 and 1798/99.

I can find a John Jarvey, late tenant farmer of Balbardie who died 1797 and his wife, Mary Cleland.  Old parish records show John and Mary had several children - Thomas Jervy (1749), William Jarvy (1751), James Jarvie (1760), Mary Jarvey (1770). I also know there was a George Jarvey, vintner, Bathgate who had Jarvey Street, Bathgate named after him and I think was the brother of John Jarvey (from a history of James 'Young' Simpson). 

So, after all that information, does anyone know if George Jarvey, vintner, married and had children, one of whom could be my George Jarvey (1766)?  Or did John and Mary have a son called George who took over Balbardie after John died?

I know there are a couple of you wonderful forumites who have an interest in the Bathgate Jarvey/Jarvie family line, so I'm hoping you might be able to point me in the right direction.

Many thanks in advance.

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