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Lancashire / Re: Baptism dues paid
« on: Thursday 13 September 18 16:00 BST (UK)  »
Hi Threfall.. no. They did apply for a few short periods late 1600s/early 1700s.. for Registration of an entry.. haven't got the dates in front of me but someone else has already posted them. There were also burial fees for a short while. Now of course you pay wedding fees, but not for baptisms, though I think there is a fee for issuing a certificate of baptism.
Anyway.. none of this would explain why only one baptism entry says 'dues pa'd'... think I will have to accept that whoever was filling in the Register at the time aded something that meant something to him!

Lancashire / Re: Baptism dues paid
« on: Thursday 13 September 18 07:23 BST (UK)  »
Oh well spotted Maidenstone. (1) I was sure William Robinsonís was not at the end of the year and Iíd didnít double check..oops. And (2) I did look for other dues paíd notes but clearly didnít go back far enough. In a way, that is even odder. I donít think that there was a fee for burials either at that time.. yes, burials, Baptisms and Marriages were all mixed up in earlier Registers... but I have a copy of the LPRS Transcription for those... Iíve not looked right through it, but used it a lot. Even in the years when there were charges.. there is no dues paid entry...
my feeling is that any financial transactions were recorded in the Churchwardens accounts.. though I have seen burial fees occasionally in burial reg for another parish.

Lancashire / Re: Findmypast "Lancashire Collection"
« on: Wednesday 12 September 18 14:19 BST (UK)  »
It is a wonderful resource, and often I find things on there I can't find anywhere else. But if that leads me to an original image, that is frequently more informative than any transcription. Just little differences in order of words/abbreviations changed slightly etc are enlightening. And sometimes, as a bonus, you even get occupation and place of residence, often not included in a transcription, though I must say Lanc OPC are very good at doing so.

Lancashire / Re: Baptism dues paid
« on: Wednesday 12 September 18 14:14 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Threllfall.. we're probably related!! I've got Threlfalls in my tree somewhere.
Yes, I have dozens of North Meals baptisms too and I've never seen this before. I don't think it's related to a burial at all.. the only thing I can think is that it may be something to do with the family having only recently moved to the Parish. But they had a child baptised 2/3 years earlier and there was no entry against his name.
And if it was to do with the end of the 'old' year, as someone suggested, then why don't other years have a similar entry... it's a mystery!

Lancashire / Re: Findmypast "Lancashire Collection"
« on: Wednesday 12 September 18 14:00 BST (UK)  »
Aulus.. I've only just seen this from July, and I can see you know the answer. But I thought I'd let you know that my experience has been that FindMyPast have now added original images to what before were only transcripts. I don't know how widespread this has been. But for certain people I've been researching for ages, suddenly the original image is available.

Lancashire / Re: Baptism dues paid
« on: Wednesday 12 September 18 13:51 BST (UK)  »
My goodness Medpat.. that's shocking.. but not sanctioned by the church clearly... he was just another dodgy cleric. I'm sure a lot more of that went on unrecorded... it's not just the catholic church!

Lancashire / Re: Baptism dues paid
« on: Wednesday 12 September 18 13:22 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Maidenstone.. you make a very good point about no one being sure of age.. Also, if William was an orphan, which is likely, then I can see that consent might need to be given whatever his age. I wonder who his guardians were? And why was his brother 'bonded' as a servant age 8? Though I suppose at least he could do something, whereas William was only 2 when his father died.

The dues paid entry isn't at the end of the year.. end of March.. and it is right beside William's name. So I don't think I can solve this mystery at the moment. I've never found where his father came from or where the parents married.. so I'm wondering if they'd come from outside the Parish and were asked to pay.. but then, I didn't think you could just move easily from one Parish to another at that time anyway.

All very confusing, but thank you for your help.

Lancashire / Re: Baptism dues paid
« on: Tuesday 11 September 18 12:34 BST (UK)  »
Hi stanmapstone
Thanks for that. I do know that but nevertheless, the entry is clear on the register. Lancs OPC have copied it too. I just canít understand it given that fees were not my payable as you rightly say.. except for a short period not including the year in question anyway.
Itís very odd. The father of the child in question died 2 years later and the older brother appears to have been Ďbound toí a weaver as servant under the Poor Law Admin of North Meols. He was only 8. I canít trace him after that. The child, William, of the dues paid issue seems to have done ok. He married and had children himself. He is my 5 x ggf. But when he married in 1771 the marriage entry says Ďmarried with the consent of guardiansí written beside both names. They were both 23, so thatís not normal either. Iíve checked Baptism Register. I donít think thereís any doubt of their age. All v weird. I canít trace the mother either after the birth of the children.. no burial found, though the father is buried in the churchyard where his children were baptised and the family descended from William have been in the area ever since.

Lancashire / Baptism dues paid
« on: Monday 10 September 18 12:32 BST (UK)  »
I have a Baptism in 1747 at North Meols, Lancashire. There is a note added to the register (contemporary) to say Ďdues paidí. This is the only child in the whole register who has this note. The couple had a child baptised 2 years earlier and no such note was added.
Any idea what this might mean?
This question was asked in 2010 but the answers then donít work for my baptism because the dates when such dues were paid are outside the date above.

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