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Cornwall / Re: Meaning of Mr
« on: Saturday 11 April 20 08:32 BST (UK) »
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Cornwall / Re: Meaning of Mr
« on: Wednesday 08 April 20 19:42 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Philip.
Now what is the meaning of Mr Thompson and Miss Hawking in their marriage record?
Most of the time the groom is a bachelor. Would Mr Thompson mean he was married before marrying Miss Hawking?
Now what is the meaning of Mr Thompson and Miss Hawking in their marriage record?
Most of the time the groom is a bachelor. Would Mr Thompson mean he was married before marrying Miss Hawking?
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Cornwall / Meaning of Mr
« on: Wednesday 08 April 20 15:49 BST (UK) »
Hi everybody,
Is there a specific reason why in birth, marriage or death registers 'Mr' is added before (or after) the name? Most of the time nothing is added...
Is there a specific reason why in birth, marriage or death registers 'Mr' is added before (or after) the name? Most of the time nothing is added...
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Walter S Edwards born Canada/England
« on: Friday 11 January 19 23:11 GMT (UK) »
Polarbear,
Found the index for birth Mary. Thanks!
Contacted local library. They have 'boardmeeting' tomorrow and will discuss A*stry issue...
Chempat,
I now see something went wrong. I first posted a few links to Fam*Srch, then modified my post adding query about A*try acces in library, but something must have gone wrong and lost links...
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Cannot find -with Fam*Srch- birth/baptism record of Samuel, nor record marriage of his parents. Maybe the record book containing both has been lost?
We actually don't know when Samuel moved to America so he might be in a census 1841 (or even 1851 census to get married in 1852?)
Don't know whether this might be related to our Samuel- and or parents;
A census 1841 samuel (age 11yrs fits) in a family William+Susannah (=Susan?)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQRZ-WBM
A census 1841 with a William Edwards (bottom of list) in/with a Susan Farr family (?!)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQTK-8ZM
Found the index for birth Mary. Thanks!
Contacted local library. They have 'boardmeeting' tomorrow and will discuss A*stry issue...
Chempat,
I now see something went wrong. I first posted a few links to Fam*Srch, then modified my post adding query about A*try acces in library, but something must have gone wrong and lost links...
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Cannot find -with Fam*Srch- birth/baptism record of Samuel, nor record marriage of his parents. Maybe the record book containing both has been lost?
We actually don't know when Samuel moved to America so he might be in a census 1841 (or even 1851 census to get married in 1852?)
Don't know whether this might be related to our Samuel- and or parents;
A census 1841 samuel (age 11yrs fits) in a family William+Susannah (=Susan?)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQRZ-WBM
A census 1841 with a William Edwards (bottom of list) in/with a Susan Farr family (?!)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQTK-8ZM
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Walter S Edwards born Canada/England
« on: Friday 11 January 19 13:56 GMT (UK) »you might check if your local public library subscribes to Ancestry Library Edition. This should give you access.You refer to local public library in England? Bad luck, I'm not living in England.. I'll contact local library to find out possibilities free access.
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Walter S Edwards born Canada/England
« on: Friday 11 January 19 00:32 GMT (UK) »
Polarbear, what a fantastic job you did there. Waw!
Took me some time to decorticate it.
I forgot Bella died in New Jersey. But I did have in mind Samuel might have moved to Pennsylvania where his son Walter S moved. But didn't know how to take action...
Amazing you found Samuel's second hand store in the Montreal Directory! I now managed to find the online record.
O.K. found on Fam*Srch the 1905 Census New Jersey.
O.K. Bella birth date in 1901 definitely wrong.
Not checked birthdate on your Scotlandspeople link yet.
O.K. Found on Fam*Srch 1910 census Kennet Sq. Also for son Walter and wife Margaret.
I don't know where you found the Samuel's burial info (Drouin Collection)? With name
parents! Amazing!
Found Samuel's grave on Find*grave !
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/153760669
Born 16 Sep 1829, but death date is 21 Mar 1911 insead of your 02 Mar 1911 Or is it difference between death and burial (Seems much too long between dates)?
For Samuel's will on An*stry I'll check later.
Amazing how you manage to get so much info in two day's time!!
I go totally berserk on the immigration info on the censusses. Have same problem with 1900, 1910 and 1920 census for Walter + Margaret family...
With birthdate and parents of Samuel now in mind, I thought it would be easy finding his birth/baptism record / England, but unfortunately cannot find a valuable candidate ...
Same problem for Marriage of William and Susan (Susan can be Susanna).
I think I waste far too much time on Fam*Srch...
Last minute, I see there's new posting I have to read.
You all do such a great job!
Took me some time to decorticate it.
I forgot Bella died in New Jersey. But I did have in mind Samuel might have moved to Pennsylvania where his son Walter S moved. But didn't know how to take action...
Amazing you found Samuel's second hand store in the Montreal Directory! I now managed to find the online record.
O.K. found on Fam*Srch the 1905 Census New Jersey.
O.K. Bella birth date in 1901 definitely wrong.
Not checked birthdate on your Scotlandspeople link yet.
O.K. Found on Fam*Srch 1910 census Kennet Sq. Also for son Walter and wife Margaret.
I don't know where you found the Samuel's burial info (Drouin Collection)? With name
parents! Amazing!
Found Samuel's grave on Find*grave !
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/153760669
Born 16 Sep 1829, but death date is 21 Mar 1911 insead of your 02 Mar 1911 Or is it difference between death and burial (Seems much too long between dates)?
For Samuel's will on An*stry I'll check later.
Amazing how you manage to get so much info in two day's time!!
I go totally berserk on the immigration info on the censusses. Have same problem with 1900, 1910 and 1920 census for Walter + Margaret family...
With birthdate and parents of Samuel now in mind, I thought it would be easy finding his birth/baptism record / England, but unfortunately cannot find a valuable candidate ...
Same problem for Marriage of William and Susan (Susan can be Susanna).
I think I waste far too much time on Fam*Srch...
Last minute, I see there's new posting I have to read.
You all do such a great job!
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Walter S Edwards born Canada/England
« on: Wednesday 09 January 19 23:03 GMT (UK) »
Looks awesome. Never expected to see full birth dates on a census...
I admit it would be difficult not to agree it's the correct family. But ...
1/ Bella.
If Bella (Isabella) is born 1871, then in the 1871 census she is a baby, or max 1 year old.
I don't understand how she then can be recorded as 7 year old in the 1871 census.
The 7 seems to be correct though, because it turns into 17 on 1881 census. But here same remark; 17 seems a lot for a girl that's still a 10 year old child if she's born in 1871...
The 1881 census looks a bit better, but still...
Do we have to be that flexible?
Or do we need confirmation of her birth date by finding birth certificate (probably Drouin Collection)?
2/ Mary.
No comments.
She states she's from England but should be Scotland. Common error I suppose.
3/ Samuel.
1929 quite acceptable for his age on 1871 and 1881 census.
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Just for nitpicking:
If the full dates of birth are correct, then the ages on april 1901 should be:
Samuel 69 instead of 71 (turns 70 in sept 1901)
Mary O.K. (The census guy might actually have knocked on the door on her birthday!)
Bella 29 not yet 30 (turns 30 in nov 1901)
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Birth/Baptism record search.
Problem is that baptism date might be very long time after birth date, sometimes even years later. I did a quick search in Family*Srch whether I could at least find a baptism in England for a date close after sept 12, 1829, but I cannot find a good candidate...
That's why names of parents are so crucial.
A few thoughts:
Immigration.
The census 1901 states Samuel and Mary both in 1840 immigrated to Canada.
Would that be from USA to Canada (Samuel came from New York) or from England to North America (USA+Canada)? Was moving from New York to Canada considered "immigration"?
If Samuel was born in 1829 and Mary in 1833 they both were children when emigrating in 1840 from England. I guess they emigrated with parents? Or is it possible at such a young age they emigrated without their parents?
Census in England.
If Samuel left England in 1840, or before if he first emigrated from England to New York, then There's no hope to find him on first census (1841) in England...
I'll do my best to check parish burial records.
I admit it would be difficult not to agree it's the correct family. But ...
1/ Bella.
If Bella (Isabella) is born 1871, then in the 1871 census she is a baby, or max 1 year old.
I don't understand how she then can be recorded as 7 year old in the 1871 census.
The 7 seems to be correct though, because it turns into 17 on 1881 census. But here same remark; 17 seems a lot for a girl that's still a 10 year old child if she's born in 1871...
The 1881 census looks a bit better, but still...
Do we have to be that flexible?
Or do we need confirmation of her birth date by finding birth certificate (probably Drouin Collection)?
2/ Mary.
No comments.
She states she's from England but should be Scotland. Common error I suppose.
3/ Samuel.
1929 quite acceptable for his age on 1871 and 1881 census.
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Just for nitpicking:
If the full dates of birth are correct, then the ages on april 1901 should be:
Samuel 69 instead of 71 (turns 70 in sept 1901)
Mary O.K. (The census guy might actually have knocked on the door on her birthday!)
Bella 29 not yet 30 (turns 30 in nov 1901)
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Birth/Baptism record search.
Problem is that baptism date might be very long time after birth date, sometimes even years later. I did a quick search in Family*Srch whether I could at least find a baptism in England for a date close after sept 12, 1829, but I cannot find a good candidate...
That's why names of parents are so crucial.
A few thoughts:
Immigration.
The census 1901 states Samuel and Mary both in 1840 immigrated to Canada.
Would that be from USA to Canada (Samuel came from New York) or from England to North America (USA+Canada)? Was moving from New York to Canada considered "immigration"?
If Samuel was born in 1829 and Mary in 1833 they both were children when emigrating in 1840 from England. I guess they emigrated with parents? Or is it possible at such a young age they emigrated without their parents?
Census in England.
If Samuel left England in 1840, or before if he first emigrated from England to New York, then There's no hope to find him on first census (1841) in England...
I'll do my best to check parish burial records.
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Walter S Edwards born Canada/England
« on: Wednesday 09 January 19 12:58 GMT (UK) »In the Drouin Collection,
Walter S (Steinhoff) son of Samuel Edwards and Mary Nicol
Montréal, Québec (Quebec)
Methodist.... Saint James Born 12th Feb 1861 bap 21 March 1861
Their marriage is in the same collection, same church---------------------------
19 JL 1852
Samuel Edwards batchelor of NEW YORK
Mary Nicol of Montreal
Hi again,
I still hope to find names of parents of Samuel Edwards, but my research leads nowhere... .
Samuel's second child is John, probably named after Mary Nicol's father John Nicol? Then maybe Samuel's first child William is named after his father?
His mother's name would definitely help a lot for finding a possible birth certificate...
Am I correct that marriage record (Drouin Collection) of Samuel Edwards x Mary Nicol doesn't mention his parents names, and no Edwards parent act as witness?
Does Samuel's death certificate mention his parent's names?
Ontario death certificates seem to be accessible on Family*Srch and often contain lots of information such as parents of deceased. But for Quebec there seems to be only indexes or "Find*Grave" burials showing only name and date of deceased... Does Drouin Collection have death certificate of Samuel Edwards? I have no acces to Drouin collection...
Samuel must have died (probably in Quebec?) after Quebec census of 1891.
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1871 – Samuel 40 yrs - Methodist.
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1871/jpg/4395440_00122.jpg
1881 – 50 yrs
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e327/e008162424.jpg
1891 – 55 yrs
http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1891&op=img&id=30953_148211-00213
Samuel year of birth must be about 1830-1835, or even 1825-1840 ?
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Thanks in advance for help!
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Walter S Edwards born Canada/England
« on: Wednesday 02 January 19 23:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi everybody.
After going though the posts recently I have to admit I misinterpreted a few posts which lead to mixing up the "Walter Steinhoff" and "Walter Steinhoff Edwards". Mea Culpa.
Thanks for all the input.
(I might have a question related to the Samuel Edwards, but for clarity I'll start a new topic for that one).
After going though the posts recently I have to admit I misinterpreted a few posts which lead to mixing up the "Walter Steinhoff" and "Walter Steinhoff Edwards". Mea Culpa.
Thanks for all the input.
(I might have a question related to the Samuel Edwards, but for clarity I'll start a new topic for that one).
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