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FaganShaw,

How unexpected! I'm so glad to hear from you. Since I'd first posted here I'd occasional tried over and over to look for a living relative on the Schauer side but to no such luck. Happy you've finally appeared and are interested in the old days.

I hope you might have some insights that I couldn't have thought up. And it's quite amazing your mum's generation are still around. From what I can gather, they would be the last children of that generation, and might have the faintest memory of their parents lives. Maybe a story or two? I believe my parent would be your mum's 2nd cousin.

In the meantime I've got a little collection of notes about the Schauers but there's still a lot I need to do, and haven't touched it in quite some time.

Look forward to hearing back.

I'm trying to find how close a number of families were living by each other. The most I have to go off is the Schedule number on the 1851 Census.

Garndiffaith Schedules: 29, 93, 106, 180

Abersychan Schedules: 63, 113, 139

Pontnewynydd (St Luke District) Schedule: 12, No 2 Butlers houses. (*Police station house was schedule 10* which itself was next to the Underwoods Cottages)

They all sound like they could be close to one another. I just can't place where in general area that they were in. Does someone here know the area better?
 

I'm trying to chase down a pair of families that were living in Trevethin in 1841 and 1851. They left for Australia in 1864, together, but I can't find them in any census online for 1861. It's like everyone went into hiding that year. Or maybe someone's handwriting is too atrocious to transcribe that year. It's hard to know.

I presume they're unsearchable though the new means, and I'd have to run through the old books page by page in that area. Are there any tips on how to narrow that task down?

The family is Job and Martha Cleaves (nee Robbins).

In 1851. Martha's married, and her brother George Robbins lives with her.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGTL-FC8

In the same year, Her parents George and Sarah Robbins live down the road with the rest of the family.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGTL-F8G

By 1861. I'd presume they'd still be in Trevethin, Monmouthshire. The Cleaves should have 7 or 8 children with them at this point. The parents George and Sarah Robbins might have only their son John Robbins living with them still.

Martha's brother Isaac Robbins would be married with Ann and have a child named Mary Ann. Age 5 or so. I haven't found him either.

All the other siblings have left for Australia already.

Job Cleaves is from High Littleton, Somerset, Martha is from Trevethin, Monmouthshire. Does anyone had have an idea how I'd find them?

Hi Jamjar, That seem to be her. I'm not sure who did it, but I also found some names on a historical blog that noted that Bertha's birth was 24 Feb 1890 Wairau, NZ. Though I can't find her in the NZ bdm.

I also found Herman Albert Thompson Schauer born in NZ 1907
Then I find him dying in Malvern, Victoria under the name Shaw in 1952

So there is another case of going by the name of 'Shaw'
It's tough to track down Gustave. I wonder if he kept the Schauer since his wife did.
The real tough part is trying to understand what happened to their youngest sister, Marie Elizabeth Schauer. Who on her marriage cert has the Herman as the father, except he's been dead for years, and her mother was married to John Davey 4 years earlier. She just vanishes from records.

Thanks MalNZ for looking into that. I always felt he would be there in person, which felt like a bit of a stretch. I leaves me to think that he was trying to enter the Pub business like his sister-in-law's husband, who he lived with for a brief period. I hope you're enjoying your travels!