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Thank you so much to all of you for the information.  My apologies for not replying sooner, we have been without electricity and therefore no internet!

I didn't knew you can now search by maiden name for births before 1910, that would have been a big help and I also didn't know that other records were available at find my past to what I use on ancestry.

Thanks again, I will now purchase the correct birth certificate.

Hello all,

I haven't posted in absolutely ages and am just getting back into my family tree having received my dna results.  I really need some help in clarifying how to tell if I have the correct birth certificate for my great grandmother or not?  Here is my problem:-

On marriage certificate her name is - GERTRUDE Caroline Smith married Thomas Staines 12.04.1903 Tottenham, Middlesex.
Aged 21 - this makes birth 1882
Father William Smith (still living) - Labourer
Residence 8 Brograve Road, Tottenham

On death certificate name - CAROLINE Staines
05.09.1944 Enfield, Middlesex
Aged 60 - makes birth 1884

Census 1911
CAROLINE Staines born Tottenham, Middlesex, married 8 years living in Enfield, Middlesex with husband Thomas Staines and children.
Aged 26 - makes birth 1885

I ordered the only GERTRUDE Caroline Smith birth in the Tottenham area around the year 1885 and these are the details from it:
5 Mar 1885
10 Howard Terrace, High Road
Gertrude Caroline
SIDNEY William Smith
Annie Mary Smith formerly Allwright
Solicitors Clerk
A M Smith, mother, 10 Howards Terrace, High Road, Tottenham
16 Apr 1885

Prior to receiving this certificate I had been told her parents were William Smith b. 1850 and Caroline Rumble b. 1852 which is completely different to the above.

Is it possible her father went from a solicitors clerk to a labourer.  He also has Sidney as a first name followed by William which is a possiblity as Gertrude or Caroline proves they dropped names.  How can I be sure which is correct?  I cannot see another birth for a Gertrude or Caroline that coinside with the dates and place or birth

Below are the census I found for Sidney William and Annie Mary, I cannot find them on any others after 1891

1881 Census
RG11/1384/24 p 42
40 West Green Rd
Sidney Smith Head 23 Solicitor's clerk b Brixton, Surrey
Annie Smith 23 wife

1891 Census
RG12/37/171 Hammersmith
Sydney W Smith Head 33 Private engraving agent law ?stationed b Brixton, London
Annie M Smith  wife
Sydney N Smith 10
Daisy M Smith 8
Gertrude C Smith 6
Mabel E Smith 3
Stanley Smith 1

Any help or input apprectiated

South Africa / Re: Does anyone have access to Ancestry South Africa please?
« on: Wednesday 11 March 09 09:44 GMT (UK)  »

I had tried to find out how much it was but I could not get an answer from anyone.  If that is all it is I will have to join, well worth a few pounds as I know there is a lot of info on there about my family members.

Thanks for the advice.


South Africa / Re: Does anyone have access to Ancestry24 South Africa please?
« on: Friday 27 February 09 22:08 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Andy

I did not realise I given the web address by someone else and they told me it was Ancestry I just assumed it was the same, that would explain why I could not see the details on my Ancestry subscription.


South Africa / Re: Does anyone have access to Ancestry South Africa please?
« on: Friday 27 February 09 16:08 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Andy

Thanks for your reply.  I have checked my local library in Lowestoft and they tel me they don't have it.

What I was looking at was on this site and when you put a search by name it states there are 16 items under the 'subscriber content' and 2 items under the 'open content'.

South Africa / Re: Does anyone have access to Ancestry South Africa please?
« on: Thursday 26 February 09 12:31 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Pauline,

I have emailed my local library to see what they have as first port of call.  I always thought local libraries only held records for the local area and as I don't come from anywhere near here I have not used it.


Immigrants & Emigrants - General / Passenger Lists Look Up Please?
« on: Thursday 26 February 09 11:36 GMT (UK)  »

I wonder if someone would be able to find my rellies on a passenger list please? I have all sorts of details that lead them to South Africa but don't know when they went of if they went straight there?

They are:-

Louis John Ainger born 1880 St Pancras, London still in the UK in March 1901 as was at his mothers death.
No trace then until he died a widow in France.
His residence at time of death was given as South Africa where I believe he may of married his wife Helen Mary or rummour has it he married in the USA?

I mow have Louis Ainger estate paper death notice, thanks to a lovely lady on here.

Possibly travelling with him if not after 1904 were
James Herbert Ainger born 1879 Islington, London and his sister
Nellie Ainger born 1880 Islington, London

Both James and Nelly remained in South Africa and died there. I have the references of James' death notice and Nelly divorce and death.  I also know that James returned to the UK in 1950 before dying in South Africa 1952

Any help appreciated.

Many thanks

South Africa / Does anyone have access to Ancestry South Africa please?
« on: Thursday 26 February 09 11:32 GMT (UK)  »
Hello all,

I have had a look on Ancestry South Africa and it show 18 records for the 'AINGER'. I have had a look at the 2 which are free to view and wondered if there was anyone who had access to the others?

Many thanks

Kim xXx

South Africa / Re: Louis John Ainger South African Army
« on: Wednesday 25 February 09 16:10 GMT (UK)  »
Oh Moira,

I cannot thank you enough, you have given me a wealth of information.  It was believed that he had a child or children whom I can now follow up.

Thank you so much for the information.


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