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The Common Room / Re: Is he Howard or Mann 0r both?
« on: Sunday 06 February 22 11:43 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Trish. I never dreamt, when I started this thread simply as an enquiry into possible cause of differing maiden names, that it would lead to such a wealth of information. So thank you to all that have contributed to the story of James 'Howard' and his family

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The Common Room / Re: Is he Howard or Mann 0r both?
« on: Sunday 06 February 22 07:47 GMT (UK)  »
Great work! Thank you so much Kay

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The Common Room / Re: Is he Howard or Mann 0r both?
« on: Saturday 05 February 22 23:48 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Kay and Margaret, Brilliant!
I’m sure now that I have James Frederick’s family and the origins of his sometimes used hyphenated name.
Howard-Mann was recorded as their surnames on at least two of his children’s marriage records.
I have no record of him between his birth/baptism and thereafter as ‘Howard’ at his marriage in 1929, in the 1939 Government Register and at his death in 1984.
I’ve had a similar case in our tree, where the ‘unmarried’ father’s name was added before the mother’s maiden name and eventually replaced it

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The Common Room / Re: Is he Howard or Mann 0r both?
« on: Saturday 05 February 22 19:45 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for all that Kay99

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The Common Room / Re: Is he Howard or Mann 0r both?
« on: Saturday 05 February 22 17:41 GMT (UK)  »
I think I might be getting somewhere. I looked for a possible mother (Margaret/Maggie Mann) in his Baptism area and found, on the GRO Index, a birth registration for Margaret Ann YOUNGS Mann.
Perhaps this could point, as you suggested AntonyMMM, to an attempt to disguise her un-married state.

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The Common Room / Re: Is he Howard or Mann 0r both?
« on: Saturday 05 February 22 17:21 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, I suppose I would have to get a certificate, but not sure now which name I would have to specify in the application, Mann or Howard?

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The Common Room / Re: Is he Howard or Mann 0r both?
« on: Saturday 05 February 22 17:07 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Kay99 for your response and all the information.
And thank you AntonyMMM for your interesting comments. I'm probably wrong (happens very often!) but if the Norfolk Baptism record is for him, which did seem likely, then I would have thought that his mother's maiden name would have been recorded as 'Mann' in the Births register?

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The Common Room / Is he Howard or Mann 0r both?
« on: Saturday 05 February 22 13:53 GMT (UK)  »
Can anyone please tell me why the following might have occurred?
Free BMD has a James Frederick Daniel Mann born Brentford Dec 1/4 1905. However the GRO online index shows the entry with all the same details, except for him now having the surname Howard.
Any suggestions as to reason for this would be much appreciated.

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South Africa / Re: What happened to Eva?
« on: Sunday 10 October 21 14:27 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Pampoen. Sorry, I don’t know if they had any children. They married in 1949 and so, although not impossible!, it seems unlikely that the Popiels you kindly found are theirs. It pays to never give up though doesn’t it? I've just found a great great Uncle who ‘vanished' and turned up in Australia, It only took me ten years! 😀 Thanks again for your efforts to help.

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