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Down / Ros Davies' County Down Website is Back!
« on: Saturday 19 May 18 03:08 BST (UK)  »
It is with great pleasure that I announce that Ros Davies now has her own URL address and is back online with her wonderful County Down Family History website.

rosdavies.com

Please note that there are still a number of broken links that need attention, but she is working hard to have these corrected as soon as possible.

Welcome back Ros!

Stan

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Down / Re: Roz Davies Co.Down site
« on: Saturday 28 April 18 04:14 BST (UK)  »
Good news.  I was worried that she would be disheartened.  Please pass on our best wishes and thanks to her.
Rosemary

Alas, but she is indeed disheartened.

This is not the first time that we've lost access to Ros' Co. Down website (and likely not the last). While it is great to have a service like Rootsweb that offers to host web pages for free, users are left completely in the dark when outages such as the recent one occur. Then there is the question of the long-term viability of the service. Will Rootsweb suddenly stop hosting services for free, or just shutdown forever?

The data on Ros' website, built up over many years of meticulous and time-consuming work, is an invaluable resource for us Co. Down researchers that has no equal. It would be a real shame to lose it.

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Down / Re: Roz Davies Co.Down site
« on: Friday 27 April 18 00:16 BST (UK)  »
Yes, I see that , just hoping for some insider knowledge.
Rosemary

I was in touch with Ros recently and she is sitting patiently like everyone else waiting for her live website to go back online. In the meantime we have to make do with the link to her archived pages that was posted by Cwellan CoDown.

Available on Archives

https://web.archive.org/web/20170312145901/http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/

 

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Ireland / Re: Copyright and Irish Census/BMD Records
« on: Friday 20 April 18 13:17 BST (UK)  »
Thank you to everyone for your thoughtful replies (and to IMBER for confirming my suspicions... perhaps a change of meds would help  ::)?).

While I am quite well-informed about copyright infringement in general, I find the subject very murky when it comes to publishing a book of ones family history with images pertaining to things like BMD transcriptions (not reproduction of original certificates), census records, extracts from tithe applotment books, etc.

 Perhaps the clearest statement from a government agency I have found on this side of the pond comes from a Q&A in the publication "Reproduction of birth, death and marriage certificates" by the the National Archives (https://goo.gl/61h6J8).

Q. I want to publish some certificates in a book I’m writing. Can I do this and do I need to get anyone’s permission before I publish?
A: The layout of all certificates are protected by Crown Copyright, so if you are publishing these in a book or online publication you should acknowledge Crown Copyright (you don’t need to do this if you’re just placing them on Facebook or similar). You do not need to approach GRO or The National Archives for permission. But do bear in mind that if any of the certificates relate to living individuals you need to consider the Data Protection Act provisions above and make sure you have their permission to publish.

No mention of "commerical use". Does the same apply for other types of government records commonly used in family history (estate records, census returns, applotment books, Griffiths Valuation)? Does the Republic of Ireland have a different policy?

Using the links kindly provided by Sinann, I will write the government agencies directly and see what they have to say.

Thanks once again.

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Ireland / Re: Copyright and Irish Census/BMD Records
« on: Friday 20 April 18 05:53 BST (UK)  »
I can't believe you are asking this on a site which is mainly for genealogy & has guidelines of it's own for use of the site i.e. what can/cannot be posted...
My apologies for asking an irrelevant question. Will look elsewhere for an answer.

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Ireland / Copyright and Irish Census/BMD Records
« on: Friday 20 April 18 01:18 BST (UK)  »
I see a lot of family history books published (and for sale) by genealogy hobbyists which include images of Irish census and BMD records. Are they violating UK copyright laws?

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Down / Re: Lookup for: Thomas McCallum/McCollum Down b.1835 +/-
« on: Sunday 15 April 18 06:00 BST (UK)  »
Wish I could find Thoma's birth certificate...

Thoughts?

https://www.familysearch.org

Name:   Thomas Mc Callum
Gender:   Male
Christening Date:   05 Jul 1835
Christening Place:   PRESBYTERIAN,KILLINCHY,DOWN,IRELAND
Father's Name:   Allan Mc Callum
Indexing Project (Batch) Number:   C70030-1
System Origin:   Ireland-ODM
GS Film number:   0823877 IT 6, 0824373 IT 4

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Down / Re: Births of John (c.1903) and Robert (c.1906) Flanngan/Flanigan/Flanagan
« on: Tuesday 27 March 18 14:08 BST (UK)  »
How do you know that Robert and John are sons of Rose Ann?

There is a Robert Flannigan born to a Dorethea Flannigan in Belfast - could this be a sister of Rose and the child her nephew and not her son?

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1906/01743/1688319.pdf

There is a Dorothy Flannigan without a child in the same area of Belfast in the 1901 Census

A possibility I suppose, or the two (Dorothy & Rose Ann) are cousins. Will see if I can find Dorothy's birth.

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Down / Re: Births of John (c.1903) and Robert (c.1906) Flanngan/Flanigan/Flanagan
« on: Tuesday 27 March 18 14:02 BST (UK)  »
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Have you searched for the 2 boys under McGraw/McGrath?

Yes, and also searched the Roman Catholic Records on Findmypast.

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What about tracing that family for clues to Rose and her children?

I presume you mean the "McGrath/Mcgraw" family. I have searched backward and tried to find a connection between that family and Rose Ann's family, the Flanagans (e.g. was Rose Ann's adopted mother Mary once a Flanagan?) The closest I can come is a Rosanna Flanagan born 12 Oct 1876 to James and Mary Ann (nee McCormick) Flanagan (https://goo.gl/LW8aFV) and the deaths of (her parents?) James in 1877 and Mary Ann in 1876. So also looked for a connection between McGrath/McGraw and McCormick (including variations), to no avail.

But that is a different path/story, and the focus here are the births of John (c.1903) and Robert (c.1906).

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