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« on: Thursday 09 July 15 20:56 BST (UK) »
Sorry to cause so much confusion, as I mentioned earlier it's because I have 2 trees and I looked at the tree that was outdated first instead of the most up to date one. Elizabeth's name is O'Neil and her birth place has been guessed as monoghan because of her children been born there but Thomas was definately from Belfast. I have their son williams birth and death certificates were it says Elizabeth was a shaw also but from another relatives certificate of another child's marriage (not sure which one until I check)it states her name as O'Neil......my 3xgrt grandfather william Shaw and his siblings all lived in dalry Ayrshire before he married Janet edgar in 1849 in dalry. Their marriage certificate says williams parents are Thomas and Elizabeth Shaw, but on Margaret shaw and Daniel magill/mcgills marriage cert it it says her name is O'Neil(just checked) also on Matthew shaw and Elizabeth nodes/nodds marriage cert it also says O'Neil. All thomas and Elizabeth's children were born in Ireland but married in Scotland....im sorry for causing such confusion, even though I've been learning how to do this for years I still struggle a lot of the time especially with my Irish ancestors.....think I need a crash course of using this site