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Cork / Re: Ann Bateman - born Cork 1810 - father Michael
« on: Sunday 01 January 17 10:27 GMT (UK)  »
HI Dan
I have not looked at this family recently , but, from memory.....

I have not been able to definitely trace family back in Ireland before they came to U.K.

I have traced two probable brothers in the U.K. One was called Rowland which was a family name Ann used for one of her sons. Another Michael, a shoemaker like his father, was transported to australia and made good there. BOth born in Cork about right time As I said, not definite, but details fit.
If I am right this would rule out your Michael. Though possibly a relative.

Let me know if you find anything else to connect. I have tried looking all sorts of places to trace back the family in Ireland and liked you, feel very frustrated.

LIz

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Devon Lookup Requests / Re: Hockworthy - PERRY Family
« on: Monday 18 April 16 22:09 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for this info. It has inspired me to look again at this branch of my family tree after a long gap! But I am still perplexed as neither of these births seem to fit. John and Mary married in October 1813 had 11 children  between 1814 and 1837. If she was born in December 1797 this would mean that she was under 16 in October 1813 so too young for this marriage. If she was born in April 1781 she would have been 56 in 1837 which is too old to be having children then.
John was born in 1783 and I get the impression she was younger than him. I have estimated a birth date around 1794.
I have seen her grave but the gravestone which is very worn does not appear to give her age. Nor have I found a burial record. 
Thinking it through ......  I know she was born in HOckworthy per later censuses, but she could have been baptised elsewhere??? ....... I have a possible death  in 1867 and could send for certificate which might give indication of age , but not where she was born and this might not be her as there are alternatives  ........ um.....!!!!!!!!

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Gloucestershire / Re: Bristol - where were these 19th century streets?
« on: Friday 31 July 15 08:07 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for latest reply. I have not looked at this for a bit  and away from home at the moment but a looking forward to checking out.

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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Lady, Hackney, late 19th century?
« on: Tuesday 17 March 15 15:48 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you both. That is very useful.

Both the J Pitt and the Henry T Reed card is in the form a carte de visite (2.5 x 4 ins). 

Wikipedia says these went out of fashion and were replaced by larger cabinet cards in 1859. However, I assume this is wrong and they were continued to be produced - even if not for quite the same purpose.

I have a number of both

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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Lady, Hackney, late 19th century?
« on: Tuesday 17 March 15 15:14 GMT (UK)  »
I have come back to this post as I am now writing up the story of my Hackney families.

I am reasonably sure now this lady is the other great great grandmother I mentioned. She would have been about 25 in 1865 and this would have been in the early years of her marriage. One of the deciding factors was that her husband was living in ST Peter Street neat Bethnal Green Road when they married in 1861 and they continued to live in Haggerston and Dalston. It would also make sense if this was a later reprint say in 1880s as they were reasonably affluent then. The "other" great great grandmother was widowed in 1878 and moved away form the area so this would not tie in with a later reprint.

Just to establish this I am writing to enquire if "you" have obtained any further information about the dates when J Pitt & SOn traded in 215 Bethnal Green Road?

And, as an add on, I have what I think is a later photo of the same lady by
Henry T Reed of 16 Tottenham Court Road.
 I think this was taken about 1880-1884 as her husband had a business in nearby Oxford Street at that time.
Do you know anything about this photographer?

Thanks anyway. It is good to be back online after a long gap - and to see the website is still going strong

lizb

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London and Middlesex / Re: Where was Wareham Street< Hoxton?
« on: Thursday 12 March 15 19:51 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks. That's very helpful. I can see an unnamed street on my 1862 map that must be the one. Makes sense as it is round the corner from Bridport Place where my ancestor worked or worked as well.

I have already invested in about 20 Alan Godfrey maps (about half of them Greater London). The trouble is my ancestors are rather scattered. These particular London ones were mainly in the City, Finsbury, Hackney and Camberwell. They were only briefly in Hoxton. More particular this family were lodging in Wareham Street while himself was in Debtors prison!

lizb

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London and Middlesex / Where was Wareham Street< Hoxton?
« on: Thursday 12 March 15 17:42 GMT (UK)  »
My ancestors lived there in 1856.
It was in Shoreditch, St Saviours Parish. I can find references to it online up until 1930s but area has been redeveloped since and so not on current maps.
I have searched all the maps I can find but I have not found it yet.
Does anyone have a more detailed map with index to help me locate?
Thanks

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Norfolk / Re: Liffen, Hacon, Bayes - Norfolk
« on: Wednesday 03 April 13 18:31 BST (UK)  »
Further to previous post earlier today - I have not been able to tie in Hacon burial in Acle to our Hacon. But will give info in case you have further info as possible family link. However several families in Norwich and Yarmouth at time.
Burial was Henry Hacon, husband of Matilda, born 1804, died 1876.
I have found his christening and birth in 1804 in Yarmouth - son of JAmes and Elizabeth. Martha was his third wife, 20 years  younger than him. He married Mary (Thain?) in Yarmouth and had children, then he married Caroline Dennington in Yarmouth in 1858 - she died in 1861, he married MARTHA wILKIN IN Norwich in 1862. In 1871 living in SOuth Walsham.
Cannot establish more at present as my ancestry sub has just lapsed. But as you say there must be something that can lead us further back,
lizb

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Norfolk / Re: Liffen, Hacon, Bayes - Norfolk
« on: Wednesday 03 April 13 12:50 BST (UK)  »
Brief visit to Acle church over weekend. Found a Hacon gravestone which  I am just about to check to see where it fits into family. Spoke to vicar who said that local historical society is just about to start transcribing churchyard memorials. But ones from time we want are badly warn now. He also told me that a lot of people moved inland from Yarmouth and Acle to escape plague. They were built up areas where disease spread more quickly.

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