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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA to solve brickwalls?
« on: Sunday 14 April 24 18:00 BST (UK)  »

So DNA does solve or help breaking down walls.

 :)

Yes, but that's very recent. Once you get further back, it's not so easy.

I have two groups of matches who match each other on my paternal side, and one on my maternal side. They are largely full of matches who don't have trees, or have private trees. The ones who have private trees don't turn up in any search for any locality my family lived in, and the few who have useful sized public trees usually turn out to be based in the States, and not have managed to cross the Pond yet.

And two of my paternal brick walls are in parts of the country which have no group of unknown matches to even look at. My great grandmother (an only child) came from Oxfordshire, and should have several matches of a reasonable size, but there's absolutely nothing from her locality at all.

Just not that simple, and very dependent on who has tested.

Hi

A lot of what you say is true about what you post about DNA, but you mention early further back usually pre 1837 census years and you talk of family trees as sources for pre known information on a family history.

 What you have to remember if its hard for you to find & prove your family history it is most likely have been hard for them to have found it - so they copy other trees with the the notion that if a lot of trees have the same information, then it must be right.   (Though there will be some accurate trees - they are very few provable, usually very rich family records or poor law records of the parish like overseers payments from the parish relief funds to the poor, or parish chest info and in between people of different classes like working or middle class folk - its pot luck on any information has survived.

 Graveyard epitaph MI's help also  deep research in archives and as an extra tool DNA helps also but its not an instant shortcut with info from family trees (But does help as a tool of many in the overhaul picture)

Added: With  LDS religion ! the followers need to go back 6 generations of their family history  out of necessity of their religious belief with family history DNA  it is improving all the time for this for a reason

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA to solve brickwalls?
« on: Sunday 14 April 24 08:55 BST (UK)  »
I've always been sceptical on some DNA reports I've heard about getting no near connections but a lot of general stuff like, descend from Norman, Saxon. Druid, Asian, African and or other descent. I have seen a programme of late on unknown male sperm donation fathers  and they have had success being able to track the father or at least his family connection with DNA for the child that was born from a sperm donation for/when that child has grown up wanting to know who was their biological fathers. ( I believe the father or his family were contacted first to see if they wanted the fathers identity passed to the child of the sperm donation first though)

So DNA does solve or help breaking down walls.

 :)

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York Borthwick archives held in the university library have some burial records for West Yorkshire burial grounds as well.  :) 

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No problem :)


Hi Iasquith

Kirklees Council cemeteries.

In your offer to look up burial info: to help or advise to add further or beyond to your records for Batley, Dewsbury and Heckmondwike grave look up that you don't have.

(They say)

"We can search for a grave with up to 3 names. Prior to 1995 our computerised records are minimal and we usually do a manual search of the registers. Most of our older records are available to view on microfiche by contacting the Kirklees Local Studies Library."

https://www.kirklees.gov.uk/beta/libraries/services-and-resources/local-study-library.aspx

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Kirklees Bereavement services at Huddersfield crematorium administration Fixby Huddersfield hold most council records, they are free to do a search in person at the crematorium or a charge on line search. (see link below)

https://www.kirklees.gov.uk/beta/deaths-funerals-and-memorials/search-for-a-grave.aspx

Dave

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Hi Smithkie,

I'm afraid scatchardfamily has not been active on the website for 5 years since May 2019  ::) ???

Click on  the members name scatchardfamily and it will bring up this Rootchat members profile page

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 A very nice impressive restore of the original image post 1 # Sammy  :)

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Looks very well made expensive clothes this party are wearing- these folk must have had bob or two.  ;D

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I'd look at electoral registers or any other doc's like GRO index BMD's Parish baptisms. marriages & burials or local newspapers search at the addresses

Patrick Thornton or Thornson (using long s )or Thornbin

2nd image suggests the  dot over an 'i' (ending bin)or cross over a 't' (ending ton)but the first image
 no dot could end in 'son'

 ???

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