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Pembrokeshire / Re: Ann Rees born Milford c1806.
« on: Monday 12 September 22 09:45 BST (UK)  »
Thank you to all. It looks as though it would have been better to give you more information to begin with.

Ann Rees married Samuel Britton in 1834 in Bristol. She had a child (who looks to have been illegitimate) by the name of Martha Giddings Rees in 1832. Martha was born Bristol but baptised on 01/01/1837 in Bitton. The register shows she was 5 years old when she was baptised. Martha married John Pring in 1858 and her marriage certificate shows her father to be Robert Rees. They married in Risca, Newport, Monmouthshire in 1858.

Samuel and Ann had four children and they lived in Bitton near Bristol. Samuel died in 1856 and in 1858 Ann married Harry (Henry) Start. They married in Newport, Mon. There is the strange entry on the 1861 census for them. Harry died in 1867. In the 1871 census Ann is living with her daughter, Martha, in Newport, Mon. In the 1881 census she is living with another daughter, Sarah and her husband William Came in Kensington. She died in 1885 in Kensington.

The only specific place of birth for Ann is Milford, Pembrokeshire. Otherwise, her place of birth is shown as Wales.

The entries on registers etc for Martha may give some clues. I wonder whether she was married before her marriage to Samuel. Was Robert Rees her first husband? Where does the Giddings name fit in? In the baptism entry it suggests she was illegitimate as the father's name has been erased. Just Ann Rees is shown as her parent.

In this family there are many links to Newport, Monmouthshire. As the only entry showing Milford as her birth place is that in the 1861 census showing them both in false names which is suspect. I wonder whether this place of birth might be false too. They appear to be trying to hide their true identity.

It is a brick wall and seems possible the mystery will never be solved.

Jo

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Pembrokeshire / Ann Rees born Milford c1806.
« on: Saturday 10 September 22 11:10 BST (UK)  »
This lady is my 3 x gt grandmother and she is proving hard to trace in any parish records. In the 1861 census she states she was born Pembroke, Milford. She is shown as age 48 and under the name of Alport in this census. In most other census returns her age indicates she was born c1806.

There are no suggestions the family was non conformist. I wondered whether anyone had any idea where she might have been baptised? Does anyone possess parish registers for any of the churches in that area? Is it possible to look up to see if she can be found please?

I am not familiar with Milford so have looked at Genuki but the situation for this area looks quite complicated. It does state the church records start from 1808, so it may be she cannot be found. I note there is a connection with Steynton parish. Any information would be appreciated.

Jo

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Somerset / Re: Sir. Thomas Earl Knight
« on: Thursday 22 July 21 14:32 BST (UK)  »
There is some information on Sir John Knight here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Knight_(died_1683)

I am not sure it is the same person as mentioned in relation to this family tree.

I agree with teragram31510, you need to use original sources such as parish registers and other prime sources. The trees on Ancestry are unreliable.

Jo

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Somerset / Re: Sir. Thomas Earl Knight
« on: Wednesday 07 July 21 14:49 BST (UK)  »
Hello Janet,

I don't know how many bodies etc you have contacted about this query. It might help if you could provide some information rather than have us make suggestions and repeat these.

The first thing I wondered is whether you have pursued your search in Gloucestershire as most of Bristol is in Gloucestershire. Genuki has a wealth of information on this:

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/GLS/Bristol

St Phillip and St Jacob is situated in Gloucestershire:

https://www.parishmouse.co.uk/gloucestershire/bristol-st-philip-and-st-jacob-gloucestershire-family-history-guide/

Have you made enquiries in the relevant archives? Which ones have you contacted, or searched?

There is the Gloucestershire Family History Society which may have some information to assist you:

https://gfhs.org.uk/

When did Earl Pearce die? Have you looked for a Will for him? Same for Elizabeth Knight, have you tried to find a Will for her? Did they have any children?

What is the source of your information on Benjamin Quarman? Judging from this feature, he left Bristol to work in Worcester and later Isleworth. It says he went to Worcester in 1753 and then to Isleworth in 1765.

https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/15925/lot/152/

Those dates look to make it debatable whether Benjamin would have worked with Elizabeth after Earl Pearce died.

Jo

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Somerset / Re: Sir. Thomas Earl Knight
« on: Tuesday 06 July 21 15:15 BST (UK)  »
I found this online which indicates the query has been a long term quest:

https://www.british-genealogy.com/forum/threads/79458-Elizabeth-Knight

It states that she was buried in 1808 aged 71, so her year of birth would be c1737. That looks a bit old for a marriage in 1768.

The dates don't tie in with this one:

https://www.british-genealogy.com/forum/threads/51087-EARL-PEARCE-from-BRISTOL

More here:

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=545757.0

Jo

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Cheshire / Re: John H Challoner and Dorothy Davies
« on: Wednesday 30 June 21 15:58 BST (UK)  »
Hello History Lives,

Just to let you know that this site isn't to be used to trace, or research, people who are living, or could still be alive. I pondered answering your query in view of this.

The 1939 Register was used for the Ration Books. Women who married changed their names and this had to be updated hence the extra surnames. This is why it has been amended to show Dorothy's married name of Challenor. The Register does not give any information on people who could still be alive, or were born less than 100 years ago. This is the reason for the redacted areas in it.

Jo

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Just to conclude the situation on the two couples.

Marriage St Vigor, Stratton on the Fosse, 07/03/1859, George Parfitt, age 23, bachelor, Labourer, abode Stokes Bottom Stratton on the Fosse, married Hannah Southway, age 22, spinster, abode Stokes Bottom Stratton on the Fosse. Groom's father Henry Parfitt, Mason. Bride's father Joseph Southway, pensioner. Witnesses were: William Parfitt and Ann Parfitt.

They had a son, Albert Henry Parfitt,  baptised in Stratton on the Fosse on 29 May 1859. The register shows he was the son of George and Anna Parfitt of Stokes Bottom. George a Labourer.

Jo

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It looks to me as though there were two couples with the names George and Anne/Anna Parfitt baptising children in Stoke Lane around that time.

There are baptisms in Stoke Lane for the following:

Emma Parfitt baptised in 1857, d/o George and Anne Parfitt, abode: Stoke St Michael, Labourer.
Ben Parfitt baptised in 1859, s/0 George and Anne Parfitt, abode Stoke St Michael, Labourer.
Jane Parfitt, baptised 1861, d/o George and Anne Parfitt, as above.
Walter Sidney Parfitt, baptised 30 October 1862, s/o George and Anna Parfitt, abode Stoke St Michael, Labourer.
Amelia Parfitt, baptised 26 June 1864, d/o George and Anne Parfitt, abode Stoke St Michael, Labourer.
Arthur Sidney Parfitt, baptised 11 September 1864, s/o George and Anna Parfitt, abode Stoke St Michael, Labourer.
Emily Charlotte Parfitt, baptised 5 August 1866, d/o George and Anna Parfitt, abode Stoke St Michael, Labourer.
Mark Parfitt, baptised 28 June 1868, s/o George and Anna Parfitt, abode Stoke St Michael, Labourer.
Alfred Parfitt, baptised 29 March 1870, s/o George and Anna Parfitt, abode Stoke St Michael, Labourer.
Richmond Oliver Parfitt, baptised 28 January 1874, s/o George and Anna Parfitt, abode Stoke St Michael, Labourer.
Elizabeth Anne Parfitt, baptised 15 September 1878, d/o George and Anna Parfitt, abode Stoke St Michael, Labourer.
Elizabeth Anne Parfitt, baptised 2 May 1880, d/o George and Anna Parfitt, abode Stoke St Michael, Labourer.

The reason I suspect they were two couples is because of the baptisms of Amelia in 26 June 1864 to George and Anne Parfitt, then of Arthur Sidney Parfitt on 11 September 1864, to George and Anna Parfitt. There is just 3 months between these baptisms.

There are Parfitts galore in Stoke St Michael!

Jo

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Flintshire / Re: The Chemistry?, Mancot, Flintshire
« on: Saturday 12 June 21 15:57 BST (UK)  »
There is a Wikipedia entry for Hawarden which has come information on the industries in the 19th century. These include, "making of... chemicals such as Glauber Salts and Ivory Black making". This can be found on the part headed, "19th century".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawarden

The parish was larger than it is today. Hawarden and Mancot are in very close proximity.

Jo

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