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Wicklow / Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc. - Part 4
« on: Sunday 10 December 17 05:31 GMT (UK)  »
Years ago we recorded in these pages that a daughter of Old Nick Halpin, school proprietor in Portarlington, by name of Mary Anne Halpin married in 1789 Thomas HILL, son of Thomas Hill.  Father and/or son were at varying times described as master builder or architect.  They had 3 reported children (no substantive records) presumably born after 1789
Nicholas Thomas Hill
William Halpin Hill
Mary Anne Hill (confused with her mother?).
It is also suggested that some or all of them went to Waterford (town or county I don't know).

For the record, I have extracted these entries from Alumni Dublinenses because of the mention of Queen's Co or Waterford.  There are many more Hill entries for Dublin that I have not extracted.  A William Hill and a George Hill were parties to the above couple's deed of marriage settlement.

Hill, Edward, Pen (P.T.) Jan 17 1834, aged 19; s of William, Clericus; b Waterford  BA Vern 1838
Hill, James, Pen (Mr Halpin) Dec 7 1801 aged 19; son of Thomas, Architectus; b Queen’s Co.  BA Vern 1806.  MA Nov 1832

I wonder if either of these may be cousins of the Nicholas John or William Henry Halpin families.

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Wicklow / Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc. - Part 4
« on: Sunday 10 December 17 04:59 GMT (UK)  »
William Knapp's query sent me delving into descendants of Gen Charles Greham Halpine, 5th child and 3rd son of Rev Nicholas John Halpin and his wife Ann Greham.  All or most of his family remained in the USA, originally in Manhattan.  An extraordinary number of the sons and grandsons became US army or naval officers, and many are buried at Arlington National Cemetery.  There would be living descendants, at least one still named Halpine.  I attach a tree chart.
Bill

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Wicklow / Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc. - Part 4
« on: Thursday 07 December 17 06:20 GMT (UK)  »
William Knapp.  Have a look at this online marriage record.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-893H-49N1-X?i=2124&cc=1804002 and
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K8NC-PBM
and note the name Knapp.
Nicholas and Emily are buried Arlington Cemetery, Emily lived to 102.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/49196379/nicholas-john-halpine#view-photo=121691617
I believe Nicholas was born in Uruguay, probably where his father was stationed, also in USN.  His father also buried at Arlington.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/49196380/nicholas-john_lane_trowbridge-halpine

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Wicklow / Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc. - Part 4
« on: Thursday 07 December 17 02:55 GMT (UK)  »
As a postscript, I do beg any descendant who is NAMED HALPIN to submit that DNA, even if you are female.  Also, as a general rule, it is beneficial to test the oldest family member, who has the least recombined genes.  The following article may assist.
https://dna-explained.com/2013/06/23/mythbusting-women-fathers-and-dna/
(Note, this was posted in 2013, so the prices for tests are not current - refer to my previous.)

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Wicklow / Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc. - Part 4
« on: Thursday 07 December 17 02:44 GMT (UK)  »
While writing to our forum, I do most strongly encourage representatives, of any Halpin branch, to test for DNA.  At the moment there are significant end-of-year special prices.  Some of the tests are cheap, some are a middling investment.  But once it is done, it is done.

I do particularly want any direct MALE HALPIN descendants to test for Y-DNA.  There are very precious few Halpin-named descendants surviving.

I refer to a few online guides:-

https://dna-explained.com/2012/10/01/4-kinds-of-dna-for-genetic-genealogy/
https://www.familytreedna.com/why-ftdna.aspx

I also strongly urge you to consider all testing companies (about 4) and then decide to AT LEAST decide to test with FTDNA.  It is the only DNA company solely devoted to family history, and it is the only company that tests beyond Autosomal DNA - to test Y-DNA (male) and MT-DNA (female) inherited DNA.

All interested descendants, female and male, absolutely should test for their Autosomal DNA (FF or Family Finder) at FTDNA.  As a package:-
All males should test for FF + Y-DNA: https://www.familytreedna.com/products#/shoppingCart?pid=%20215,1676;
All females should test for FF + mt-DNA: https://www.familytreedna.com/products#/shoppingCart?pid=%20215,1196.

https://isogg.org/wiki/Beginners%27_guides_to_genetic_genealogy
https://isogg.org/wiki/Family_Finder
https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-1b/faq#/FYDNA.

Bill  (I have tested comprehensively with FTDNA but mine is very mixed female/male.  My grandmother was a Halpin.)

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Wicklow / Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc. - Part 4
« on: Thursday 07 December 17 02:10 GMT (UK)  »
Hi William
I have to ask, what steps are you taking to trace your family back?  You don't mention any.

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Wicklow / Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc. - Part 4
« on: Thursday 06 July 17 02:18 BST (UK)  »
So, Brian, was there an Eleanor Alexandra, or only Elizabeth G, and which one married Carleton?  I have in my records (don't know where from) that Eleanor (married to Carleton) died on 25/1/1950 and that she remarried in 1907 to a Charles Walker.  That should help to sort it out.  And where are they all in the 1911?
I probably have it all wrong, but it is very confusing, I'm glad you admit.

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Wicklow / Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc. - Part 4
« on: Thursday 29 June 17 07:33 BST (UK)  »
In late December 1888 in Dublin, Eleanor Alexandra Halpin married Arthur Wellesley Carleton, both of 5 Palmerston Road Dublin.  He was a surgeon, son of Rev Henry Carleton.  She was daughter of Nicholas John Halpin, Esq.
This is NJ Halpin married to Rebecca Doherty, and Eleanor was their last child.  The only child I had of Carleton and Eleanor was Cyril Wellesley Carleton born 1891 at 5 Palmerston Road.
Then, in the 1901 Census, in Greystones, Delgany, Wicklow, there is a household of
Rebecca Halpin, head of household, widow, 70, born Wicklow
Elizabeth G Carleton, daughter, widow, 30, born Wicklow
Charles W Carleton, grandson, 10, born Wicklow
Dora E Carleton, niece, 10, born Wicklow.
So, is Elizabeth G Carleton, daughter of Rebecca in the census, a further daughter of NJ Halpin and Rebecca Doherty who also married a Carleton, or have they put down her first names incorrectly?

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Wicklow / Re: Faulkner Family from Wicklow and Carlow
« on: Thursday 29 June 17 06:57 BST (UK)  »
Prominent Irish author Turtle Bunbury's family are related to the Butlers.  If you haven't already, do contact him; he is very approachable.  Find him by Google.
Turtle has done extensive research into my Halpin family of Wicklow and Dublin.  The Halpin family's solicitors were a firm, still existing, named Hone & Falkiner.  Although that is the accepted spelling, I think in earlier times it may also have been spelled Faulkner.

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