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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: eloping to Rotherham, 1800s
« on: Monday 23 October 17 23:48 BST (UK)  »
Thank you MagicMirror for the required local input. I have since found that my forebear (4x great) was third in line in terms of teen marriages. She was 15, her mother barely 17, and her father's mother just 16. They married in Dudley, Chesterfield and Rotherham, and I particularly was wondering about Rotherham and its lack of fuss (or obvious banns!). I will try the good folk at Sheffield Indexers as no reply forthcoming from the family history society. Cheers.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: eloping to Rotherham, 1800s
« on: Tuesday 17 October 17 17:26 BST (UK)  »
Thanks. RootsChat is absolutely amazing for unraveling family trees. In this case I really need specific info on the town of Rotherham. Fear not I will return with a more family history type question (rather than local history question) soon. Thanks for all the ideas nonetheless.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: eloping to Rotherham, 1800s
« on: Tuesday 17 October 17 07:29 BST (UK)  »
Thanks KG. My thoughts entirely. I have written to Rotherham Family History Society as I really would like to know if this happened a lot in Rotherham. If you know the town you'll see the quality of the registers compared with Sheffield and wonder about record keeping/ banns records in total. If no one knows anything about Rotherham, I think I'll need to close this topic.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: eloping to Rotherham, 1800s
« on: Tuesday 17 October 17 07:15 BST (UK)  »
Hannah's husband was from Eyam in Derbyshire and this is where the couple resided after the marriage.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: eloping to Rotherham, 1800s
« on: Monday 16 October 17 23:32 BST (UK)  »
These are good thoughts, but the bride concerned (Hannah) was from a well to do family who'd scrabbled up to middle class. Ok her father had died so maybe she was sent out to earn her keep by her stepmother. Maybe indeed. That would be outrageous as her half-brother became seriously minted. However I'm pretty sure she already knew her future husband before the trip to Rotherham. And there would be plenty of better jobs in Sheffield or Chesterfield. So unless her mother had relatives in Rotherham, I'm still thinking she picked the town because of it's ask-me-no-questions policy on marriages.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: eloping to Rotherham, 1800s
« on: Sunday 15 October 17 10:02 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the message.  Rotherham was definitely not the nearest place.  Dronfield Woodhouse was the nearest church (or Holmesfield) and Sheffield was in-between that and Rotherham.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / eloping to Rotherham, 1800s
« on: Saturday 14 October 17 22:28 BST (UK)  »
I'd like to know if anyone has heard of Rotherham being an easy place to get married in the early 1800s, with not too many questions being asked. My 4x great-grandmother ran away to get married there age 15 around 1808 when the registers were looking a right old mess. No sign of the dear vicar using Hardwicke registers, which had been available since 1784. We don't know if she regretted the marriage, but she was pregnant for the next 27 years and tumbled a reasonable way down the social scale (to my lot!). If anyone knows whether Rotherham has disproportionate number of marriages for its size at the time, or any other indicators of convenience weddings happening there, I'd be interested to hear.

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Dorset Lookup Requests / Re: The Dibben girls of Sturminster 1800s: 3 missing marriages!
« on: Sunday 13 August 17 22:32 BST (UK)  »
hi there.  You're quite right, Jane was listed as Jane Welford in the will (of John Williams).  If you can bear to, I recorded three videos about the family.  Far too long.  I might one day (some day) re-record at double the speed.  It gets going at 4:30, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ONKkFV5C18 and the portion about Jane begins at 10:30.  She's a pretty interesting lady.  I didn't have John Williams's date of death so thanks for that.  As you can see there is a gap between the will being written and it being proven with the death you found (1846) falling neatly in-between.  Jane Welford's great-grandson, raised on a coffee farm in Mysore, India, painted the White Horse of Wembley in about 1923.  I believe her photograph has recently emerged too.  Can post here if interested.

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Dorset Lookup Requests / Re: The Dibben girls of Sturminster 1800s: 3 missing marriages!
« on: Wednesday 09 August 17 22:59 BST (UK)  »
Good question(s). The will just says to Jane Dibben (no mention of relationship). Her marriage to husband number two definitely says spinster. It does seem to point to there being no marriage. Strange behaviour for the early 1800s, middle classes. Her second husband was a barrister with a private road into London.

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