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The Common Room / Re: Are They Triplets?
« on: Thursday 25 October 18 20:34 BST (UK)  »
Yes, we have quite a few examples of siblings being baptised together in job-lots, so to speak.

London and Middlesex / Re: Colville Square Bayswater
« on: Friday 14 September 18 08:03 BST (UK)  »
Thanks, folks.
Useful info.

London and Middlesex / Colville Square Bayswater
« on: Thursday 13 September 18 20:13 BST (UK)  »
Would a person, domestic servant,  living at 23 Colville Square in 1932 be living at their employer's address or would this be their own address? In other words, would this have been a reasonably prosperous household or more modest dwellings?
Also, is there a way of finding out on the 1939 register who lived at that address in 1939?
Thanks for any info.

The Common Room / Re: Premature birth in 1876
« on: Thursday 16 August 18 12:21 BST (UK)  »
The aunt of my OH who was a midwife from 1940 through to the 1970s, used to say that in the past premmie babies were kept permanemtly swaddled up against mother or anyone else available's bare body, to maintain a favourable temperature.
Also, a friend who had a very premature baby in the early 1980s was told that the milk produced by the mother of a premature baby was different and more suited to the baby than that produced by the mum of a full term baby.
I'd suppose that these facts were known or guessed at even in the 1800s.

The Lighter Side / Re: Moths at Underworld!
« on: Friday 03 August 18 15:33 BST (UK)  »
Haven't watched it since it was in black and white and Elsie Tanner was alive. Must have liked it, though, as I can recall all sorts of details.
Elsie's son's name - Dennis?
Someone's  lad who was  a footballer - maybe Billy Walker of the Rovers Return?
Mr Swindley - aka Arthur Lowe aka Captain Mainwaring.
Rather tame story lines compared with today, though.

Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: The Fleece Inn - Elland
« on: Saturday 28 July 18 17:53 BST (UK)  »
Thanks, hanes, This gets me a bit further back with the Thwaites.
In 1851, Martha Briggs ( Thwaites) is at Lower Edge Elland. Her neighbour is David Thwaite age 38. Maybe a relative?
Just to take advantage of rootschatters' research skills, could I run a continuing mystery past you?
Martha's son Jonathan Briggs ( my direct ancestor) goes missing in 1851 census. He is at Lower Edge in 1841 and at Hade Edge, Holmfirth in 1861 but I cannot find him in 1851. Born 1836, m. 1863 (  and  then 2 more wives). Died 1891.
Any pointers gratefully received.

Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: The Fleece Inn - Elland
« on: Friday 27 July 18 21:33 BST (UK)  »
Amongst your Thwaite family of Elland do you happen to have Martha Thwaite b. 1791, m. 14.11.1821 to Jonathan Briggs delver/quarryman? Lower Edge Elland.
I feel sure it will be the same family but I know nothing of Martha until she married Briggs.

The Common Room / Re: What was school like in the 1920s?
« on: Wednesday 06 June 18 17:08 BST (UK)  »
Assume it was the same in Wales, all schools in England had/have a Headteachers Log book for recording briefly what happened in school. Often small things like a deep clean during the holidays.
The school logs are often held in local authority records or archives.
I tracked down the logs for a school  near Dunford Bridge Yorks. They were kn the Barnsley records office. I found what I was looking for: mention of evacuees who arrived from London in 1940.
Worth a look ?

The Common Room / Re: What was school like in the 1920s?
« on: Wednesday 06 June 18 15:15 BST (UK)  »
Yes there was indeed selection for secondary school in the 1930s. But the often untold truth about passing the 11 plus was that you had to pay to go to a state grammar school. That along with travel and uniform costs meant that most working class children who passed the exam could not go to grammar school, tneir places being taken by less intelligent wealthier pupils.
My dad was able to go to grammar school, thus opening doors to a much more prosperous life, only because he was an only child and his grandma and some childless neighbours helped with the costs.
Totally free access to grammar schoold only came in the 1940s, no doubt because of the disproportionate  losses of men from the professional classes in the early part of WW2 ( RAF being the service of choice for these young men).  The government feared a future lack of people educated to a higher level. Added to this reason was the fact that people enlisted for war service were tested for their IQ etc. This would have revealed that many from the lower social classes were in fact very intelligent ie a lost ressource for the nation.
I was one of the many who benefitted from this huge surge in social mobility  for working class children educated in the 1950s. 
There are those who have an opinion about what effect comprehensive schools had on this short-lived opening up  of the doors of  opportunity.

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