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Buckinghamshire Lookup Requests / Re: William Ellwood c1700. Dinton, Bucks.
« on: Wednesday 18 April 18 16:58 BST (UK)  »
I can't see a baptism in Dinton.

Any idea from the will if this was his first marriage? Could he have been baptised as early as 8 June 1684 in nearby Chesham, son of Thomas & Martha? There appears to be a few Ellwoods being baptised there around that time.

If he died in 1752, this would still only have made him c 68 years old.

There's a baptism in Chesham for a Thomas Ellwood s/o William & Frances 28 Jan 1714. However, the only possible marriage I can find for these two is way up there in Carlisle in 1713!! Statistically possible as a first marriage, but is it likely? What did this man do for a living? Anything that would make him travel a lot - perhaps I'm just having one of my flights of fancy!!


The Lighter Side / Re: Heir Hunters new series
« on: Tuesday 17 April 18 11:29 BST (UK)  »
I've always found this programme rather tasteless.

Its all about the money and rushing to deprive the heir of a percentage of his/her inheritance before the other firm gets in there. The research is not exactly rocket science.

I suppose that's what we've come to expect from our capitalist society? I wonder how 'Joe Public' would feel about it if e.g. they had funeral directors ringing them and knocking on their doors vying to bury their dead?

Just my opinion.

It has just come to me....

I have decided and it is a real thought....

I am going to become an American TV star .... just long enough  -- for them to do my WDYTYA programme... then I shall retire... so there..

sorry ... this is my way of screaming at the lack of response from these ....'matches'


What a cunning plan Xin! Can I be your co-star?!!  ;D

I completely sympathise with what you say about no trees/no responses/no manners. I find most of my no tree matches are Americans! Sweeping statement but I suppose they probably would be more interested in their ethnicity than their family history. Having said that, its surprising how many of them who actually do have trees seem to have stopped before they had to delve into the hard bit - their origins. And don't even get me started on those apparently with a tree who, when you investigate further, have either 3 names - all private - or 303 names, none with any placenames.  >:(

I can hand-on-heart say that not one of my matches has actually started the communication ball rolling - its all been down to me and my stubborness! I can stubborn for England so they might run but they cannot hide!!!

Equally, I will say that once the contact has been made, progress often follows - sometimes in leaps and bounds, sometimes its fairy steps!

It does worry me for the future of the Western World, though - everyone these days seems to want everythnig handed to them on a plate. If not, they give up.

Oh dear, rant over!!  :-X

The Lighter Side / Re: WDYTYA USA
« on: Friday 13 April 18 13:09 BST (UK)  »
I watched the one the other week on Jane somebody or other (never heard of her) and she was just as Milliepede described. I think its the American way - they always seem to have so much self confidence and just barge their way through. So, if they haven't got any charm as well (and this lady didn't have much) they come across as very strident and demanding. Courtenay Cox and Jennifer Grey were both okay.

The latest one was one of my favourites - Noah Wyle - I've liked him ever since his ER days. It wasn't particularly exciting but it chugged along nicely and he was very interested in it all. I liked his intelligent but laid back approach.

Through familty history sites, I know many of my DNA matches or how other matches link in.

However, yesterday, I was looking at trees of random DNA matches and  looked more closely at our "common" matches.
It became apparent how everyone else was linked to each other but, nothing in their trees resembled mine, except they family originate in the same general area of my maternal family.

Last night, the penny finally dropped.
There is no father listed on my mother's birth certificate, his identity was never discussed.

I know it sounds totally daft as I have years of research experience but, it never really occurred  to me that there would be a biological father out there with ancestors of his own.

I think that I have stumbled upon his ancestors.


I've done the same - twice - but not as close as yours! Like you, I couldn't work out why these people (both in the USA) were listed as matching me. Where there was a tree (and there hardly ever is) none of the names rang any bells at all. The I looked at locations and shared matches and did a lot of polite prodding and messaging and eventually the lightbulbs came on!

By using exisitng censuses and paperwork in conjunction with the DNA results - and crossmatching (if that's the right word) with shared matches, I am convinced I have not only found the natural father of my paternal great grandmother but also the natural father of my maternal great grandfather!!

I'm chuffed - and I also think it IS possible to work out which generation of the natural family was responsible. If not by age, by common sense and the good old paperwork.

So, if you have any illegitimate ancestors (not sure if it would work for those many generations back) don't discount those matches who don't seem to have any connecting surnames. The truth is out there! (Sorry, been watching too many X Files!!)

I'm puzzled by one of my 22 top matches. (Top, as in 4th-6th cousin, high confidence or better).

I've been communicating with the lady (Lady X) and we've finally homed in on a match with our Patchetts/Pagets (same 3x great grandparents). The variation in the surname didn't help. However, through various means, I had already identified 4 other Patchett connections all of who share a match with me BUT THE MATCH BETWEEN ME AND LADY X IS NOT SHARED BY ANYONE ELSE!

I'm struggling to understand how this could be? Any ideas? Does it mean that there should be another connection that we haven't found yet?

Buckinghamshire / Re: Looking for parents in Medmenham
« on: Tuesday 10 April 18 15:27 BST (UK)  »
I've sent you a Personal Message.

Buckinghamshire / Re: Looking for parents in Medmenham
« on: Tuesday 10 April 18 12:12 BST (UK)  »
Joseph Pratt was baptised in Great Marlow 4 Dec 1796 son of William & Jane.

William Pratt married Jane Anstead in Great Marlow 7 Sep 1788.

Hannah Chapman baptised in West Wycombe 1 May 1803 daughter of Thomas & Anne.

Thomas Chapman married Anne Wye in West Wycombe 12 July 1802.

Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA matches can be so frustrating!!!
« on: Monday 09 April 18 13:41 BST (UK)  »
That's great, Xin.

Did she find you or did you find her? I ask because it always seems to be me contacting others. It would be nice if someone would actually contact me and say 'hey, we could be 3rd/4th (whatever) cousins, lets try and work this out'. But it aint happened yet.  :'(

I have made quite a few connections by being proactive but ...


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