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Gloucestershire / Re: Young and Millett families 1600's
« on: Wednesday 25 November 09 14:40 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Freda

Well. sadly I am tied into a different subscription to another site, and despite my local record office saying you can use Ancestry in their searchroom, access proved very limited and I was not allowed to use that part of Ancestry!  So I am not able to help there.  Can you tell me anything more about your Samuel - baptism/ marriage - I have several generations further back to Christopher Young, an early Quaker, died 1695.  He lived at Tockington Park, Olveston.  He married an Elizabeth Millett. 

Christopher's grandson also Christopher married twice - his first wife was a Mary Sturge.  His granddaughter Mary married Joseph Sturge.  There is also the marriage of Christopher I 's Gt x 3 granddaughter Mary married another Joseph Sturge.  Let me know what info and dates you would like.

I have obtained a number of wills and records from the Glos record office in the last few weeks which have filled in a lot of gaps.

Good luck
Hester

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Gloucestershire / Re: Young and Millett families 1600's
« on: Wednesday 25 November 09 09:29 GMT (UK)  »
Hi freida

Yes the Youngs were Quakers, which is why you won't find many of their records on the IGI.  I THINK he may be a descendant of Samuel Young, brother of my Gt x 3 Grandfather Jacob Young.  There is another person who posts on this site who will probably reply to you and I think he is a closer relative.  I can supply you with lots of info for the earlier generations, as can he!  I will look out and see if he replies.  We have a number of connections with the Sturge family, also Quaker.  All the families come from the Alveston/Olveston/Tockington area of S Glos.  The Quakers have left a wonderful set of records - baptism, marriages, burial records, wills, leases etc, in the Bristol and Gloucester record office, including the Youngs and the families into which they married, so there is a lot to work from.

Regards
Hester

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Gloucestershire / Re: Young and Millett families 1600's
« on: Saturday 21 November 09 12:18 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Nick

Thanks you for all the information.  I have a few days off next week and will use the Ancestry site at the record office to check out what you have put on that.

In the meantime, you asked for my Young line so here goes - feel free to add anything you have or query if you disagree!

Gt x 7 Grandfather Christopher Young = Elizabeth Millett
No birth details, or marriage.
Christopher buried 18 Feb 1695, Elizabeth buried 6 Oct 1684

They had ?5 children:
1. Jeremiah, buried 6 Jan 1675
2. Elizabeth, mar John Amms 22 Nov 1678
3. Jacob (my Gt x 6) = Elizabeth Blanch mar 21 Feb 1681. Jacob buried 3 Mar 1716 Left Will
4. Christopher = Alis Boy Mar 13 Jan 1682. Alis buried 29 Sept 1687
5. Hannah = Francis Boy mar 16 Mar 1686

Children of Jacob I :


1. Elizabeth bap 6 Sept 1682, bur 18 April 1712
2. Hannah bap 2 Ap 1685 = Joseph Lodge mar 4 Feb 1721
3. Mary bap 24 Dec 1686/7 bur 19 Sept 1689
4. Hester bap 13 June 1689 bur 26 Nov 1689
5. Jacob bap 12 Dec 1690 mar 1) Sarah Peasley 20 Feb 1714 - she was bur 6 Feb 1718.  2) mar Mary Smart on 8 Jan 1719/20 she was bur 8/9 Oct 1762. Jacob buried 6 Feb 1718 Inventory left.
6. John bap 11 Jan 1694/5
7. Mary bap 26 Feb 1701  bur 6 Mar 1716

Children of Jacob II:
From first marriage:
1. Jacob bap 2 Feb 1715, buried 8 Ap 1723
2. Christopher bap 8 Feb 1717 mar Mary ? bur 19 July 17176. Will left
From second marriage
1. Edward bap 26 Dec 1721/2 mar Elizabeth Bullock 28 Feb 1751, Edward bur 13 July 1782, Elizabeth bur 28 May 1784
2. John bap 3/4Mar 1724
3. Mary bap 15 Jan 1725/6 bur 17 Ap 1731
4. Elizabeth bap 16 Nov 1729 = Samuel Southall 20 June 1754
5. Jacob bap 19 June 1727= Rachel Martin 22 May 1753, Left Will

Children of Edward:
1. Jacob bap 7 Nov 1752
2. Edward bap 9 Jan 1755 bur 1 Feb 1833
3. Mary bap 26 July 1757 = Joseph Sturge 17 June 1778
4. Samuel bap 7 Oct 1759 mar Mary Shepherd ? 1793
5. John - my Gt x 3 Grandfather - bap 15 Jan 1762 = Jane?? date unknown. Jane lived to be 99 yrs old, died 24 Nov 1864
6. Christopher bap 11 Oct 1773
7 (twin) Elizabeth
8 Joseph bap 23 Ap 1767

Children of John:
1. Ann = George?
2. Maria b? 1792
3. John b ? 1797
4. Edward b? 1799 = Bethin Moxham
5. William bap 13 Sept 1801 Westbury on Trym
6. Maria bap 19 June 1803
7. George bap 14 July 1805 Westbury = Eleanor
8. Abraham bap 16 Aug 1807 Westbury = Elizabeth
9. John bap 6 Aug 1809 Westbury = Elizabeth
10. James my gt x 2 grandfather bap 8 Nov 1812 Westbury = 1) Ann? of Chedzoy, died 1857 (mother of all his children and 2) Elizab Brown, b Bristol
11. Thomas bap 30 July 1815 Henbury

Children of James:
1. Alfred bap 15 Sept 1833 Westbury = Eliza Mooney, widow
2. John bap ?1836 = Sarah Prent
3. George bap 24 Dec 1837 died 1840
4. Harriett b 1839 Henbury = henry Paul
5. George b 1842 Henbury = Annie Knollson
6. William b 1843 infant death
7. Henry bap 28 June 1846 = Emma Hobbs
8. Ellen bap 21 Jan 1849
9. Frederick James my gt grandfather bap 30 Nov 1851 Henbury = Eliza Annie Brown b Bristol

Children of Frederick
1. Elizabeth Fanny b 1869 Westbury = Albert Powell
2. Laura Louise b 1870 Hallen, Henbury = Albert Lanham
3. Florence b 1873 Lawrence Weston  bap 26 jan 1873 Henbury = Alfred Strawbridge
4. Mary Jane bap 27 Dec 1874 = Fred Beecham
5. Lily Gertrude bap 31 Dec 1876 Henbury = William Withers
6. Arthur Hamilton bap 29 Dec 1878 = Jessica Mitten
7. Ada Minnie /Edith? b 1881/2 = Albert Humphrey
8. Martha bap 25 Jan 1883 Henbury = William Williams
9. Catherine Amelia bap 26 July 1885 = Claud Boughton
10. Miriam born 26 Jan 1888 = William Jackson
11 Winifred Maud, my grandmother born 14 Jan 1890 = Alfred Charles Norton born 1 Dec 1889

Well I hope that helps you fill in some gaps on the family tree!! 

I will get back to you when I have looked at the wills which have now arrived.  By the way, I have obtained some prints of Southall's pictures.  He may be a very distant ancestor but I am claiming him!! I was in the Birmingham Art Gallery a few weeks ago, so I will try to go again to check out his work there too.

Regards

Hester




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Gloucestershire / Re: Young and Millett families 1600's
« on: Saturday 14 November 09 20:03 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Nick
Good to hear from you - a lot of information to digest!

We share the first FOUR lines in your list, which is pretty good!  My Gt x 4 grandparents are Edward and Elizabeth (nee Bullock).  From there I come from their son John, who is the next youngest from your Samuel.  My John married a Jane (surname so far untraced), and at this point they ceased to be Quakers, so far as I can tell.  And that is where the money and land fell away too!  In two generations they were farm labourers and Jane, who lived to be 99 yrs old, was living with her son who is listed as a pauper. 
So, from John and Jane, I then go to their 10th child James with his first wife Ann from Chedzoy in Somerset; then their youngest child Frederick and his wife Eliza Anne, and their youngest child (of 11), Winifred.  She was my grandmother.

It looks as though you have found the records I am at present working my way through, and am awaiting 5 wills of Young, Millett and Boy from the Gloucester Record Office, plus a request for the Southall connection in Hereford.  The wills are great for their detail, and to get a feel of the wealth and social standing of the family at that time.  I was also very touched to find the death of the first-born son of our Jacob and Sarah Peasely who died "of the bite of a mad dog".  I think the other researchers in the record office must have heard my sharp intake of breath!

I am not familiar with the family tree you have used from 1892 - is it in a published work?

I have a mention of a John Young of "Ircott" (ie Earthcott) a Yeoman, who was imprisoned in 1685 for being at a Quaker meeting and refusing the oath of Allegiance.  Could he be our Christopher's brother? 

I am not sure if we will ever get any further back with Christopher Young.  We only have Elizabeth Sturge's sayso that he came from Brinkworth, and the Brinkworth parish records do not help to find his marriage or baptism.  I did look at Castle Combe, but I am concerned there is a death of a Jacob Young in the year following the baptism which you mentioned. 

I will have a look at all the information you sent, and when I have seen the wills I have ordered I will get in touch again.  Have you followed up the Southalls of Leominster?   They seem to have been a prominent Quaker family, and I am sure you have Samuel Southall's marriage to Edward's sister Elizabeth

I will be in touch
Best wishes
Hester

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Gloucestershire / Re: Young and Millett families 1600's
« on: Monday 09 November 09 15:38 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Nick

Good to hear from you - a prompt reply!  Sorry it took 2 years since your post for me to find you!  We have been researching the same family for at least the last 20 years.  My great x 6 grandfather was Jacob Young, who was buried 3 Mar 1716.  But I have his wife as Elizabeth Blanch, daughter of John and Susannah.  I have John Blanch's Inventory.  Having taken up this branch of the family again after a break, I have just found that the Glos Record office has Jacob's will and have just requested a copy of it.  There are so many Quaker records to check in Bristol. Glos and even Herefordshire.

I have details of Christopher in the 1671 Hearth Tax at Tockington Park.  I presume you have read the Elizabeth Sturge book which first pointed me to Brinkworth as his original place of birth.  She says Christopher was married to a Hannah Millett, daughter of William of Frampton Cotterell. I am very interested in your Castle Combe  lead - not one I have tracked down yet.  Christopher seems to have had a daughter called Hannah who married Francis Boy  - again, I am awaiting his Will. Lots to do!

Will let you know when these docs arrive.  Do let me know about the Castle Combe line

Regards

Hester

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Gloucestershire / Re: Young and Millett families 1600's
« on: Sunday 08 November 09 15:41 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Nic

I just found your interest in the Tockington families of Young etc, all of which are on my family tree.  I have been researching them for years and have loads of info - there may be some details you do not have or vice versa so please get in touch

Regards
Hester

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