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Offaly (Kings) / Re: Birr Castle Archives -- SPRIGGE Family History
« on: Saturday 28 August 21 16:37 BST (UK)  »
Thank you very much again, hanes teulu.
(sorry for the late reply - I didn't get a notification for your message)

That is a very interesting connection...

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Offaly (Kings) / Re: Birr Castle Archives -- SPRIGGE Family History
« on: Friday 06 August 21 10:26 BST (UK)  »
That is just fantastic. Thank you, hanes teulu.

You folks here are amazing!

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Offaly (Kings) / Re: Birr Castle Archives -- SPRIGGE Family History
« on: Thursday 05 August 21 13:53 BST (UK)  »
Thank you very much for all of those, Kiltaglassan.

I'll just post a brief update of where I'm at with this SPRIGG family.

The family of William SPRIGGE (1633 - c.1710) of Clonavoe, Ireland, traces back to his father, William SPRIGGE (c.1581 - 1633) of Banbury, in Oxfordshire, England, and then to his father William SPRIGGE (c.1524 - 1603) of Lubenham, Leicestershire. I have now confirmed that William SPRIGGE of Clonavoe is not my ancestor, but have not ruled out a possible connection with his English ancestors.

I have now directed my attention to Nathan (or Nathaniel) SPRIGG (c.1678 - c.1730) who married Margaret BURGH and then Mary HUNT. Nathan SPRIGG was the rector of Newcastle, County Cork, and before that was the vicar of  North Molton, in Devon, England. Nathan SPRIGG and Margaret BURGH possibly had children; Rev. William SPRIGG (c.1700 - 1791) of County Limerick, Catherine BOWEN nee SPRIGG (c.1707 - 1765) of Cork, and John SPRIGG (c.1710 - 1774) of Waterford.

Nathan SPRIGG attended Oxford University, and his father was John (or Jonathan) SPRIGG of Exeter, Devon. Nathan SPRIGG appears to have had a brother Anthony SPRIGG who was the Mayor of South Molton, Devon, in 1737, and Anthony had some children there, one of which was named Nathan SPRIGG and another named Jonathan SPRIGG.

William SPRIGGE of Lubenham (above) had a son named Anthony SPRIGGE (c.1588), and William SPRIGGE of Banbury (above) had a son named Jonathan SPRIGGE (c.1629), both of which give a hint of a possible connection between the two families. A Jonathan SPRIGG was buried in Banbury in 1630, most probably the infant son mentioned.

Cheers,
Marc

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Offaly (Kings) / Re: Birr Castle Archives -- SPRIGGE Family History
« on: Sunday 20 June 21 15:14 BST (UK)  »
Thank you very much, hanes teulu.

That looks very interesting. I'll have to see how I can get access to that. I might need a library membership.

I knew that Mary and Margaret were the sole co-heirs of William SPRIGGE (d.1735), but I was hoping that William might have had a brother, however I've just this evening stumbled across a Deed from 1708 which relates to a land transaction involving William SPRIGGE and his father, and it states that William the younger was the "only son and heir apparent" of William SPRIGGE the elder, so that is a spanner in the works which sets me back a few squares, to say the least...

I'm still confident I'm on the right track with this SPRIGG family, but perhaps I now need to look a few generations back, and review some old ground again.

The name Nathan SPRIGG, married to Mary HUNT, in 1721/22 in Emly, Co. Tipperary, has now jumped out of the woodwork. My Samuel SPRIGG (sr) was married in 1765 in that same diocese.

Thanks again for your help,

Regards,
Marc

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Offaly (Kings) / Re: Birr Castle Archives -- SPRIGGE Family History
« on: Sunday 20 June 21 14:39 BST (UK)  »
Thanks, Maggsie.

The 1730 marriage is the one mentioned below. I have it as taking place in Clonfert, and the same source says Mary was born in Clonfert, but all I'm really confident to say is that her father was William SPRIGG of Clonevoe.

Cheers,
Marc

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Offaly (Kings) / Re: Birr Castle Archives -- SPRIGGE Family History
« on: Sunday 20 June 21 10:01 BST (UK)  »
Thank you very much for those, dathai.

Cdr. George SPRIGG R.N. was a nephew/cousin of my ancestors. His father Samuel SPRIGG (jr) and my ancestor Charles SPRIGG were brothers.

Samuel (jr) and Charles were grandsons of the John SPRIGG of Waterford, I mentioned previously.

There is a lot of very interesting information in those links, which I will follow up.

Much appreciated,
Marc

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Offaly (Kings) / Birr Castle Archives -- SPRIGGE Family History
« on: Saturday 19 June 21 15:49 BST (UK)  »
I was wondering if a kind soul who has access to the Birr Castle Archives, or perhaps the calendar of the archives, could possibly help with the following:-

From a summary of the Rosse Papers which are held in the Birr Castle Archive, it appears that there is some genealogical information relating to the SPRIGGE family which married into the PARSONS family, Earls of Rosse, in the 18th century.

The summary can be found here:-
https://birrcastle.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/SummaryList-of-the-Calendar-of-the-Rosse-Papers.pdf

...and on p.160, in the "Letters and papers of the 6th Earl and Anne, Countess of Rosse", it says,

Quote
FAMILY HISTORY
"Letters to the 6th Earl and Anne Countess of Rosse, some of them from Thomas U. Sadleir of the Office of Arms, Dublin Castle, and papers (many of them inherited from the 6th Earl’s uncle, the Hon. Geoffrey L. Parsons [see T/10]), about Parsons, Boleyn, Savage and Sprigge genealogy and family history..."

I would be very grateful to find out the extent of the information relating to the SPRIGGE family history in these papers, and whether the calendar fully captures the information. I am living in Australia, so a personal visit is not practical for myself at this time, and the calendar is too expensive for a purely speculative purchase.

The Birr Castle website, with information about visiting the archives can be found here:-
https://birrcastle.com/archives/

My specific family interest is to find siblings, or ancestor information, relating to William SPRIGGE (1638-1735), who was the father of:-
    Mary SPRIGGE (b. 1709)
    Margaret SPRIGGE (b. c.1711)

Mary SPRIGGE married Sir Laurence PARSONS, 3rd Baronet of Birr, on 5 Sep 1730, in Clonfert.

Mary and Margaret were the sole heirs of William SPRIGGE, so William is not my ancestor, but I suspect William SPRIGGE may have had a brother who might have been my ancestor. His only known sibling at this time is Lucy SPRIGGE, who married Peter HOLMES of Peterfield.

The earliest ancestor in this line I have proven at this time, is a John SPRIGG (b. c.1710 - d.1774), Gentleman of Waterford, who would seem to have been a likely cousin of Mary and Margaret, so any mention or connection to this John SPRIGG would be of particular importance.

Any further information on the siblings of William SPRIGGE, or his ancestors, or on John SPRIGG of Waterford, which might be available in the Birr Castle Archives would be of great interest.

Kind regards,
Marc Roberts

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Sligo / Re: Thomas CUNNINGHAM (c.1809-1877) of Rathlee
« on: Sunday 10 May 20 17:42 BST (UK)  »
Oh, well. Thanks for that, Sinann. These elusive Irish ancestors have slipped away again...

It did seem too good to be true.  :)

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Sligo / Re: Thomas CUNNINGHAM (c.1809-1877) of Rathlee
« on: Sunday 10 May 20 08:13 BST (UK)  »
I have found a reference to a will which could be that of my Thomas CUNNINGHAM:-

http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/details.jsp?id=1700444689

I'm not sure how to proceed to find more details. I'd like to obtain a copy of the will, if possible, or at least to find out what further information might be available. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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